EastBayDave
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posted September 14, 2002 09:45 AM
Poll Question:
Would you wear an "Airvest" ?
Would you wear an "Airvest?" HTTP://www.airvest.com
They are highly contraversial; although I think they might help avoid serious internal injuries. What do you think? Please explain your feelings, thanks!
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Poll Results:
 5 votes (36%)
Yes - I think it might help
4 votes (29%)
No - It's too ugly, won't help, not proven, etc.
4 votes (29%)
I wear traditional gear (leathers, helmet, etc.)
0 votes (0%)
I don't wear gear
1 votes (7%)
Kids only, unknown, not sure, etc.
  
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beansbaxter
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posted September 14, 2002 10:18 AM
 Edited By: beansbaxter on 14 Sep 2002 11:18
Just the fact that I've never heard of them till now is probably why I wouldnt wear one. Mostly since they havent been proven yet. I know when I buy that Vanson jacket real soon that the investment will be proven.
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frEEk
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posted September 14, 2002 11:56 AM
i'm not convinced it will be that much of a help in many crashes, especially not the type i'm likely to get into (ie single vehicle). i suspect it will only really help when u colide into something, and we already have armour which helps w that. i woudl think the airvest would be most useful in relatively minor collisions & slides only, cause it would absorb small impacts better than armour. this would still be a great reason to wear it, but given that u need to be tethered to the bike and i doubt it breaths well (u'll be way hotter), i'm not sure if it's worth the tradeoff.
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EastBayDave
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posted September 14, 2002 12:17 PM
This poor guy can't afford one right now; & it is a bit pricy at $600. But I'd like to have one to put over my leathers anyway (maybe excepting really hot days like was mentioned.) I can't help but think the more protection the better.
Course it would make me look like the Michelin Man, but who cares. To me ANY improvement in M/C safety is a good thing. Oh, & this has been out for a few years in Japan. It's only now becoming available on our shores...
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posted September 14, 2002 03:05 PM
I won't pooppoh something until I know more about it. If it is reasonable lightweight, not constraining and doesn't make me hotter then heck wearing it and actually works I have no real death wish so why not! I could really get into an ejection seat. I could have used one a time or two in a couple of the really bad crashes (High speed T-bones) I've had.
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redelk
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posted September 14, 2002 03:33 PM
When more research is done...
... I'll wear one. I already wear full leathers and a back protector. $600 could be a small price to pay if it's the difference in spending the rest of my life in a wheelchair or not.
I wonder how resistant they are to say a Geo Tracker running over it? I doubt it would make much of a difference in that case, but my back protector will offer little protection if I slide "gut first" into that road sign.
I worked an accident on a back highway, where this lady had wrapped herself around a sign post in that very manner. She would later recover, but it did a number on her ribs and shook up her "innards". Even if she would have had leathers on (she didn't), I don't think it would have really helped her.
If she had an airvest and it worked properly, odds are she would have just dusted herself off instead of spending a few weeks in the hospital. Her hospital bill, even after insurance, surely exceeded $600.
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frEEk
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posted September 14, 2002 05:22 PM
personally a doubt the airvest would do that much in that example redelk, just because it is air & is not liekly to be all that stiff as a result. of course i could (& would like to be) very wrong. i definitely like the idea of good armour, including chest armour, in ur leathers, & i was happy to see that my kevlar suit had TONS of armour, including full chest protection (tho ur gut is of course still exposed).
now that ejection seat, i think thats about the best thing we could have. most cases(not all) u still have a sec where u could safely flip the switch & get outa there in one piece. of course it's not even remotely practical & i'd bet more people would kill themselves with it than would be saved, but its still a ncie idea.
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posted September 15, 2002 05:36 AM
Hmmmm.....a small rocket motor under the seat and a parachute? If it was cheaper to replace than an airbag, I would have to launch just for fun. Oh yeah, I guess the bike might get a little banged up.
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EastBayDave
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posted September 15, 2002 06:25 AM
That reminds me of drag boat racing; where if you get spit out, a little parachute comes out to slow you down. Hmmm...airvest with a parachute worn over your leathers. Now if your racing, say at Bonneville, I can actually see where it would be very helpful...
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zx12zx11
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posted September 15, 2002 08:31 AM
I can see sliding down the road with Leathers. But bouncing or rolling down the road with an airvest causing more damage to you body. No thanx.
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GreenGlenn
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posted September 15, 2002 01:41 PM
The only thing that I see it providing protection from is the initial shock of hitting the ground. I would think that gravel, sticks etc.. would pop it fast and it would loose whatever protection it had. It seems to me that leather would have much more "grip" with the road and not cause you to slide forever/ bounce into oncoming traffic. I also can see myself getting off the bike infront of some hottie and forgetting the tether - BAM - instant dork. As long as you have good padding in your leathers, it seems like a no-brainer.
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posted September 15, 2002 02:56 PM
in a frontal impact, say that highspeed t-bone, the rider doesn't come off the bike until after the major damage has been done (and is doing it as he comes off the bike, taking clipons, tank etc out with his body)
at this point the airvest inflates, and the poor guy has LARGE torso area, with little legs sticking out the bottom. (youknow what i mean) should a tumbling begin, the well-rounded airvest are would roll well, but those pesky arms/legs sticking out would seem to take a LOT more stresses.....
for a lowside or whatnot, perhaps it would do some good. since bike/rider seperation is rather tame. but the classic motorcyclist killer would have most severe damage done before it even begins to inflate....
but what i DO see of this is it is like the helmet laws that feel-good politicians try to push through for their election results. yes, perhaps this will save a life or 2 down the road. but at same time the making of another 600 dollar item mandatory for bike riding is another step in the removal of bikes from one of freedoms we enjoy. this pushes the rider base upwards in the income area. once the riders are forced to the upper half of the income brackets, they become voting minority. this in effect makes or fate as motorcycle riders and requirements to ride them up to people who don't ride or (in near future) don't pay any taxes whatsoever.
the nanny state at work for you.
ths country will not go under due to lack of technology, lack of progress, or lack of defense. it WILL go down at some point due to lack of funding for the ever-growing socialistic tendencys that we can see every day.
here is prime example of that attitude:
from article in Memphis Commercial Appeal (nespaper? dunno)
."There is plenty of income . . . to provide a living wage for every family in Memphis," the study states. "The problem is distribution of income."
what people fail to realize is this exact thing has been tried over and over and over,and has ALWAYS failed. and WILL always fail, since it demands part of population to put out 150% to support the rest of the population who are just skating by collecting checks contributing NOTHING to society except more children and more burdens.
sheesh how did THIS go this direction...hrmmmm
anyway before i spend 600 dollars on an airvest, i will spend twice as much on good leather suit with armour and back protector.
an accident that the full leather didnt save me from, well i personally think that the airvest won't help with either. if it is my time to depart, it won't matter. just will change the amount of puzzlement on the acccident investigator's mind when trying to figure out HOW that little sharp thing forced tis way through the leather and airvest and bulletproof jacket to slice my heart open or whatever.. ;P
 
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GreenGlenn
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posted September 15, 2002 09:20 PM
Forget your medication again Karl?
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posted September 16, 2002 03:01 AM
heh
what you been up to slacker?
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