BALTIMORE410
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posted January 26, 2009 06:47 PM
MR TURBO........STILL THINKING BOUT IT
the more i ride my bike the more power i want......call me crazy but i NEED MORE DAMMIT!!! tried to call me turbo down in houston texas a couple time depending on how much it would cost to have the kit installed in house i might just might go with the kit
   
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Megabyte
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posted January 26, 2009 07:25 PM
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the more i ride my bike the more power i want......call me crazy but i NEED MORE DAMMIT!!! tried to call me turbo down in houston texas a couple time depending on how much it would cost to have the kit installed in house i might just might go with the kit
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almost_les
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posted January 26, 2009 08:08 PM
you'd probably be better off building it yourself. get all the stuff to seal off the airbox from mr turbo, but get a better turbo for your application. mr turbo uses rayjay turbos. they are made for aviation uses, not performance motorsports. on top of that, they are no longer in production. i'm loking at a gt2860rs. it fits the hp numbers i wanna make, and it is designed with performance in mind. spend some time looking at turbo maps and call around all the decent builders in your area to find out what will fit your application best.
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KZScott
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posted January 26, 2009 10:46 PM
have a chat with Doug Ray @ spencers about turboing a 12. his personal one has something like 562 hp
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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BALTIMORE410
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posted January 27, 2009 08:55 AM
500???? dam i just want 300 and alil bit more but i will give a couple places a call today
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shiphteey
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posted January 27, 2009 03:30 PM
 Edited By: shiphteey on 27 Jan 2009 23:32
Hey B-more,
Rick here has experience with a Turbo ZX-12R that was built up a bit over stock (over 500 RWHP to the back wheel). But whever he got to that HP level (a highly modified Mr. Turbo ZX-12) there was some other problem it ran into.
First things first, if you want 300 RWHP you'll need to build your motor to handle 300 hp. Most would agree stock pistons are not up to the task, at least for any real amount of time. Other things to consider are a lock-up clutch for this type of horsepower as well as other overall engine-integrity issues. It can be done, but it won't be cheap.
Don't forget you've got to have your frame welded up and if your motor has lots of miles on it it would probably be a good idea to give it a once over anyways.
ZX-12 transmissions are weaker than ZX-11s ... so you'd probably need to beef it up sooner or later.
Then there is the fueling issue. You can run 200 hp or so on a stock-ish bike but you'll need to beef up your fuel system. I've pushed 215 hp to the back wheels but my injectors are maxed out and you're taking a chance. Think about all of this carefully...you'll be happy when its all done right. It won't be cheap, nor will it be a weekend affair. If you try and cut too many corners you'll ended up with a poor running zx12...or one thats doomed to blow up soon.
If you wanna talk to Rick about it, he'd be happy to discuss some of the intricacies surrounding turboing a zx12.
Good luck, either way. We have a built 500 hp turbo Busa here at the shop presently...guy wants it detuned for 300 hp so we sent out the turbo to get rebuilt and have dealt with Mr. Turbo in the past.
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whitehendrix
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posted January 28, 2009 08:39 PM
i'll build ya one 
(maybe with a little help from the guys here, too!!)
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KZScott
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posted January 28, 2009 11:26 PM
Ive got a mental list going for whats going in my bike in a few yrs when it gets a turbo....the goal is 600 hp on c16 with a bit of water/meth injection to keep temps under control
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted January 30, 2009 12:37 PM
Sadly, there are not too many current kit options for the 12. As far as I know Mr. Kizer is perty much a one man show with a girl to answer the phone on occasion. Lowfliyer is on the boards here and runs a Mr. Turbo on his 12. He has been to the Texas Mile a couple times and is a real nice guy.
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KZScott
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posted January 30, 2009 03:50 PM
BigCC is another one, but they are in the UK
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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BALTIMORE410
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posted January 30, 2009 07:37 PM
I TRIED TO CALL MR. TURBO NOBODY ANSWERED THE PHONE THE THREE TIMES I CALLED.....PSSSSH MAN FORGET IT....AS FATHER TOLD ME " JUST BORE THE B%^CH OUT FOR CHRIST SAKES" WAS GONNA DO THE TYPICAL 1280 KIT BUT AFTER TALKIN ON THE PHONE WITH DAVE FROM MUZZY'S IM THINKING BOUT TRYING OUT THE 1317CC KIT
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KZScott
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posted January 30, 2009 09:12 PM
just do a 1270 or 1287. for a tiny jump in displacement, the 1317 isnt worth it. especially considering the price. the 1317 has offset bores, and wont live very long unless you offset the crank to match. the initial price for the 1317 is $2850. for comparison you can do a 1270 or 1287 for half that, with no problems with offset bores ect. if a 1287 isnt big enough, stroke it, dont go with a bigger bore. muzzys 1375 kit is actually cheaper than the 1317 kit, and APE has a 1394 kit.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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ninjakaw12r
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posted January 31, 2009 11:02 AM
I got what you need , the 1287 kit and ported head. You just need to get a stroker crank. One thing to think about no matter what you build is what kind of fuel your going to run. To make the big hp numbers you might not be able to run pump gas, just something to consider if you want to ride it on the street.
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BALTIMORE410
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posted January 31, 2009 11:28 AM
ninja i aint forget about u the guy thats suppose to be building my motor says he can get the same pistons u got for probably cheaper if he right than ill hold off on that but if not ill get those from u not so sure about the head cause he has his own flow bench test and all the stuff need to do a thorough port and polish
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ninjakaw12r
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posted January 31, 2009 03:22 PM
This head has been done with the flow bench and had the port and polish
done. Just to let you know the guy I got the head from is on this site and has a machine shop.
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KZScott
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posted January 31, 2009 08:31 PM
1287 pistons plus 4.6mm stroker crank = 1394cc
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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