muleskinner
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posted March 20, 2007 05:53 PM
REAR TIRE QUESTION
Okay I now have 3,000 miles on this loud monster and it appears to have eaten the rear tire! (Imagine that) I guess that's what happens when I whack on it in a straight line all of the time! Anyway my question is I read somewhere on this board that switching to a 190 series rear tire will give the bike better handling and better gearing for acceleration. Fact or fiction? If correct, what size rear replacement am I looking for? Also, the front tire is like new. Do I need to replace it at the same time?
  
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twista
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posted March 20, 2007 06:50 PM
from all the research and all the questions ive asked,, looks like the 190/50/17 is the tire to have ont he rear,, you can switch to a 55 if you find one,, as they are for roadrace apps,,some guys here are using a 180 on back,, but no more 200! hope that helps
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butta4hc
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posted March 20, 2007 07:52 PM
Michelin Pilot Powers is my next tire. I still have the the old 208s on mine. I also have a 200 rear and it is definitely a disadvantage in the corners. Definitely 190 is the way to go.
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Butta
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muleskinner
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posted March 20, 2007 08:40 PM
Do I need to change the front at the same time if I stay with the same brand and style of tire and just change the size of the rear?
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butta4hc
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posted March 21, 2007 03:23 AM
I know someone is gonna get on here and disagree but...I myself would change my front after every OTHER brand new rear tire thus creating a 2:1 ratio. I ALWAYS stayed with the same brand. I understand that different manufacturers tires "heat up" at different stages of riding. So in essence you could be riding hard on a cold front tire and a warm rear tire if you used different manufacturers or vice versa. Whether you change both at the same time or every other would also depend on how you are riding the bike and how you maintain your tires i.e.; sport touring, burning out, wheelying, hard in corners, racing, weather, improper inflation, etc. I'm no expert on all this but I do know this much...if you are in a fast sweeping turn you better know that you've done your homework on how to maintain your tires.
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Butta
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Paterson, NJ
2006 Black ZX-14 - Recall Frame Swap, Full Muzzy GP Exhaust, PCIII, BMC Race Filter, Flies Out, Braided Front Brake & Cutch Lines, Muzzy's Radiator Fan, Engine Ice Coolant, Frame Sliders, SubFrame Sliders, Puig Dark Smoke Windscreen, Powerbronze Hugger, Cox Radiator Guard, Unswitched Powerlet Outlet under seat, Switched Powerlet Outlet On Right Duct Panel, Intergrated Tail Light, HID lights high and low beam, Blue corner marker lights, Eclipse License Plate Blackout Kit, Black Pazzo Levers, Scorpio Alarm, Lojack Theft Recovery System, Rapid Transit Triple Tree Bag, Cortech Tank, Tail & Saddle Bags and the bragging rights for being "The Fastest 14 In The Country" for a few weeks when the 14 made it's debut here in the states.
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muleskinner
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posted March 21, 2007 08:40 PM
I'm an average twisties rider. Most of my hard riding is in a straight line. I like to hammer it hard and go through the gears with my face peeled back! I'm basiclly a horse power aholic. I live in the high desert area of So CA. There are lot's of open spaces and lightly traveled, well maintained smooth roads. That gives me the opertunity to hit 150 plus MPH just about any day I ride the bike. Thus my question regarding the front tire, as I know I will be going through a lot of rear tires.
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muleskinner
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posted March 24, 2007 05:39 PM
REAR TIRE COMING APART
I checked my rear tire again today and now notice there is a thin line, about 1/4" wide, in the middle of the tire that appears to be "tearing off" from the tire. Has anyone else experianced this condition and is the tire now completely unsafe to ride on?
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harryzx-12
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posted March 25, 2007 04:14 PM
quote:
I know someone is gonna get on here and disagree but...I myself would change my front after every OTHER brand new rear tire thus creating a 2:1 ratio. I ALWAYS stayed with the same brand. I understand that different manufacturers tires "heat up" at different stages of riding. So in essence you could be riding hard on a cold front tire and a warm rear tire if you used different manufacturers or vice versa. Whether you change both at the same time or every other would also depend on how you are riding the bike and how you maintain your tires i.e.; sport touring, burning out, wheelying, hard in corners, racing, weather, improper inflation, etc. I'm no expert on all this but I do know this much...if you are in a fast sweeping turn you better know that you've done your homework on how to maintain your
tires.
This is exactly what i do. I've never been able to get even 2000 miles out of a rear. Example my original 12 had 26,000 miles i had bought 22 or 24 rear tires. I don't do a lot of burnouts but i do like to accelerate hard especially out of corners. I run 180 rears most of the time but like 190 rears too. I run metzler m-1and bt-014's mostly. i have a set of m-3's i'm gonna try next.
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muleskinner
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posted March 25, 2007 06:42 PM
 Edited By: muleskinner on 25 Mar 2007 19:45
I got on the Moto X site today to price a rear tire. Holy shit the original factory Dunlop tire is a Sportmax D208J series. Moto X's get's $263.00 for that tire !!!!!!!!!!! I'm looking at going to the Dunlap Qualifier 190/50/70ZR. It costs $139.99 plus shipping. No tax to CA. Anyone used this tire? If so, how did it work? Is the rubber harder than the stock tire? I want to stay with Dunlop, as the front tire is a Dunlop. I also want a tire that might just go past 3,000 miles! Again, I'm a straight line barn burner, not a hard corner racer.
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zx12mark
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posted March 25, 2007 07:43 PM
in your case buy a sport touring tire....harder rubber = more miles.
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muleskinner
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posted March 27, 2007 02:53 PM
I ordered a Bridgestone BT020 190 series tire. It should last a bit longer than 3,000 miles, I hope. When the front wears out I will replace with the same brand and series.
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