Seth ZX12r UK
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posted March 19, 2007 10:42 AM
Billet Gears
Who are the alternative manufacturers to using Robinson industries billet gears?
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MadMike
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posted March 19, 2007 12:21 PM
no one that I know of for Billet
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posted March 19, 2007 01:16 PM
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VincentHill
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posted March 19, 2007 01:19 PM
I know that he just had a Problem with one of his suppliers that sent the wrong grade of Metal and when he sent 30 days of Machinning to the Hardners, it would not harden up to the correct specs and 2 months of work all gone down the Drain! This really got him behind "More than Usual". He is a Good guy and reasonable prices for what he does but he is only 1 person and is the Only person I also know of that will fool around with our small orders! He made 6 sets of OD Gears (5th & 6th) and gave us a great price. ALso "Billet" Gears will not wear as well as the Stock gears even though they are stronger!
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shiphteey
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posted March 20, 2007 12:57 AM
Yep....I was about to drop another $250 for billet gears 1-4 (totalling $1000) thinking I needed em but VH convinced me otherwise.
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posted March 20, 2007 01:30 AM
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Seth ZX12r UK
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posted March 20, 2007 01:39 AM
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Yep....I was about to drop another $250 for billet gears 1-4 (totalling $1000) thinking I needed em but VH convinced me otherwise.
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Did you leave them stock?
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shiphteey
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posted March 20, 2007 03:01 AM
Yep. From what I was told by V.Hill and R&D they are "softer" than stock so then won't BREAK under heavy load, they will "bend"....which is good for huge HP like drag nos/tubo 12s only....
Softer means it wears out quicker, especially on the streets. Guys are rocking 300-400 hp to the wheel and are fine w/their gears!
Good luck
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dougmeyer
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posted March 21, 2007 07:39 AM
If you are not drag racing and airshifting with big hp and a big tire- save your money.
You don't need these, Seth.
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ozzy
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posted March 21, 2007 09:51 AM
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I know that he just had a Problem with one of his suppliers that sent the wrong grade of Metal and when he sent 30 days of Machinning to the Hardners, it would not harden up to the correct specs and 2 months of work all gone down the Drain! This really got him behind "More than Usual". He is a Good guy and reasonable prices for what he does but he is only 1 person and is the Only person I also know of that will fool around with our small orders! He made 6 sets of OD Gears (5th & 6th) and gave us a great price. ALso "Billet" Gears will not wear as well as the Stock gears even though they are stronger!
This is an interesting statement, something I brought up to Bear a couple years ago when we were first discussing this topic. I asked about the heat treating and life expectancy of BEAR gears in my 12R on the street.. His reply was they are strong enough for a turbo 'busa. they are good enough for your 12R. I do not remember if his reply was in an email, or if it was a post. I have searched for the posts about this topic and have not found any posts by BEAR .
Here is what I believe is the original thread where I questioned the durability of these gears for street use.http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=5910&set_time=
And a few quotes from that thread:
"Are they "streetable" as in properly heat treated to go 50k miles?
Are they "Streetable"???????????????????????????????????????????
I have asked Vincent to find out if the gears are streetable, but haven't heard back from him yet"
Now Vince reiterates my point, "strong" and "long life" are NOT the same thing.
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posted March 30, 2007 10:24 PM
 Edited By: stevewfl on 30 Mar 2007 23:24
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Actually, I like not only their sprockets but their rearsets, their race stands, ....I'll quit before it sounds like they give me some kinda' incentive to talk about their chit...
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