tattz
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posted February 11, 2007 01:52 PM
power commander 111r or usb?
power commander 111r or usb? wich is better i can a 111r for a good price is it as good as the usb version ....and is there any difference between one for 2000 zx12r and 2001 ?thanks guys
    
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shane661
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posted February 11, 2007 03:49 PM
 Edited By: shane661 on 11 Feb 2007 15:49
I would suggest the usb model. It has a tuning resolution of 250 rpm, vs. 500 for the 3r. When you add the ignition module it allows for extending the rev limit. You can also add the quickshifter, which allows clutchless upshifts.
Keep in mind that you cannot adjust the timing on the usb version without adding the ignition module, or a mechanical advancer. The 3r will allow timing changes.
Also, the usb model is supposed to be more reliable, from what I have heard....
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tattz
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posted February 11, 2007 08:38 PM
thanks man....
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megabyte
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posted February 11, 2007 09:37 PM
I've had a iiir on my 12 for nearly 7 years, and it has worked great. However, if I had it to do over, I would go w/the USB version even though the total package to get timing cost more. The USB model has add-ons you can't get w/the iiir, and I also think it is more reliable, and offers better tuning features.
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posted February 12, 2007 05:15 AM
I recently bought an '04 12 with a pc3 usb mapped for the full arata and a k&n filter. It runs strong no dips in the power band. I have noticed that after warm up it idles around 1200 rpm, is that typical? Also wondered if it's worthwhile to use a different map for interstate trips for better fuel economy. And what is the benifit (if any) for a street rider to add an ignition module to the usb?
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entropy
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posted February 12, 2007 10:19 AM
i can't think of any benefit for ign module for dtreet riding unless you'd like to add a few hp 
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shiphteey
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posted February 12, 2007 11:15 AM
what about nos? taking out timing is smart!
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entropy
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posted February 12, 2007 11:32 AM
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what about nos? taking out timing is smart!
that falls under "adding a few hp"
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shiphteey
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posted February 12, 2007 11:50 AM
doh!
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tattz
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posted February 12, 2007 09:03 PM
i think im gonna try the 111r i can get it cheap and i just put on a akropovich pipe and im putting a nitrous kit on this weekend ...and im a little short on cash so the 111r fits in my price range right now ..ill get a usb in a few months also what are the chances of someone haveing a map for that combo? one other quick questions are the stock filters ok or should i change em out for some k & n's ? thanks for every ones help...
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megabyte
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posted February 12, 2007 09:18 PM
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i think im gonna try the 111r i can get it cheap and i just put on a akropovich pipe and im putting a nitrous kit on this weekend ...and im a little short on cash so the 111r fits in my price range right now ..ill get a usb in a few months also what are the chances of someone haveing a map for that combo? one other quick questions are the stock filters ok or should i change em out for some k & n's ? thanks for every ones help...
I've been using the BMC race filters for years, and haven't found anything better!
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tattz
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posted February 13, 2007 10:31 PM
cool...thanks guys for the help...
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johnnycheese
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posted February 15, 2007 01:50 PM
usb so you can map each cyl. seperate
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entropy
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posted February 16, 2007 05:10 AM
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usb so you can map each cyl. seperate
yep, you can load full fuel maps for ea cyl or simply "trim" individ cylinders, OR just use the same map for all cyl like the PC3R
But unless you have the means and patience to actually, carefully, get AF or CO data for ea cyl you'd be shooting in the dark.
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