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posted January 02, 2007 09:53 PM
shinko tires
any one ran the shinko tires on a daily rider ? are they an ok tire? i noticed they have a fairly low speed rating ..
    
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posted January 02, 2007 10:01 PM
165 is a low speed rating? from what I have seen that is the second highest speed rating. the other is 165+mph rating...
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posted January 02, 2007 11:55 PM
i meant it was lower than other mfgs ratings...sorry didnt mean it was slow by any means...lol......just was wondering how they stood up..was trying to save a bit of cash on a tire to get me by for a few months and just wondering if they are a decent tire i know alot of guys use em for drag racing ...but wondering how they are on the street.
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posted January 03, 2007 06:47 AM
I have used my shinkos for daily riding and had good luck. They hook well on street or track. I have had mine to 165 at least without any major issues. Only problem is they do change the way the bike leans in a turn due to the fltspot they have in middle, no big deal for street but not great in the twisties. Also, dont do heavy burnouts with shinkos because they do lose rubber internally. After about 3500 miles and a bunch of 1/8 miles mine had a ton of rubber piec3es inside when we changed the rear, they come apart internally under heat. It looks like little rubber bb's inside tire rolling around possibly affecting balance?
I like them still though, my local shop doesnt like them though because they come apart and warns against them even though I still buy them. Just something to think about. I doubt micky t's come apart internally but have never ran them.
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posted January 03, 2007 07:01 AM
They heat up very fast. Not good for high sustained high speeds. I used them street/strip for a few months with no problems...I took them off for running at Maxton.
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posted January 03, 2007 07:15 AM
I had a friend discribe shinko tires like this:
"Rim Protectors" is about all they are good for...
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posted January 03, 2007 08:43 AM
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I had a friend discribe shinko tires like this:
"Rim Protectors" is about all they are good for...
Could you explain this? What better tire is there out there for street/strip use?
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posted January 03, 2007 10:19 AM
yea dave what does he mean?
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posted January 06, 2007 11:54 AM
FYI, the speed rating on a shinko is the exact same as almost every other tire you would buy for a street bike. Same as a pilot power, mickey, metzler, pirelli... no different.
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posted January 06, 2007 02:53 PM
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FYI, the speed rating on a shinko is the exact same as almost every other tire you would buy for a street bike. Same as a pilot power, mickey, metzler, pirelli... no different.
that is not true... go to Pirelli and look at the speed rating... there is rating for up to 165... and then there is a rating for 165+...
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posted January 06, 2007 09:44 PM
eh, gonna have to point me to that link as I couldn't find anything on a 165mph speed rating. Unless you're talking about the "W vs (W)" they mention on a spread on one part of the page I saw. In which case, ALL of the ZR tires I saw on the page that you'd put on a street bike (ok, high powered street bike" would be rated the same... or the 165mph+ rating.
I took some pics a few years ago when this argument kept coming up about the Shinko somehow having a lower speed rating.
Top is a BT010, bottom is a Metzler M1.
Metzler Rennsport
Shinko 003
Supercorsa
The speed rating is the same on all of them. Only difference I see are the load ratings.
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posted January 07, 2007 07:41 AM
Shinkos are significantly HEAVIER than their 180/55 thru 200/50. They are a bit stickier for the strip but I have had good results with
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With pirelli Supercorsas. I have cut 1.6 60 ft times on them on more than one attempt @ the strip and I'm no pro by any means.
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posted January 07, 2007 10:38 AM
The main advantage for shinko's is at the strip. They are really cheap, and hook like crazy. And they are less than 1/2 the cost of new Pirelli's.
In every other respect, I would choose a better brand of tire.
Someone told me that Shinko was actually part of the Cheng Shin company...not sure if that is true or not.
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posted January 07, 2007 12:28 PM
I agree that the Pirellis will hook with the Shinkos at the strip, but I have found that the Shinko hooks better on the street, not to mention the Shinko seems to have a longer life than the Pirellis.
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posted January 07, 2007 02:10 PM
Had Pirellis and Shinkos, they both did a good job for me at the strip, if the track was decent .
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posted January 09, 2007 02:39 PM
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The main advantage for shinko's is at the strip. They are really cheap, and hook like crazy. And they are less than 1/2 the cost of new Pirelli's.
In every other respect, I would choose a better brand of tire.
+1
I can't tell you how many passes I got out of a Shinko, over a 100, easy.
The Supercorsa, while really a superior tire, is much more expensive, and will wear out faster.
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posted January 09, 2007 03:19 PM
no that is what I was looking at Matt... only thing it is stamped on the shinko "not for use of speeds over 165mph"
that is what I was going by...
or that is the way i understood it anyway... I could have misunderstood it I am sure...
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posted January 09, 2007 06:36 PM
Food for thought, you can get 2 race take-off rear supercorsas for the price of 1 new shinko.
Mine went 208 mph
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posted January 09, 2007 07:21 PM
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Food for thought, you can get 2 race take-off rear supercorsas for the price of 1 new shinko.
Mine went 208 mph
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posted January 10, 2007 12:08 AM
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Food for thought, you can get 2 race take-off rear supercorsas for the price of 1 new shinko.
Mine went 208 mph
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More food for thought, would you trust a worn take off on the street in all conditions ? Not me. I wouldn't go railing on a Shinko, but I'd ride it on the street. I wouldn't trust take offs on the street period.
...and I can get a brand new Shinko 003 for $105 + $10 to mount it. 1.4x's all day long 
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posted January 10, 2007 12:11 AM
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no that is what I was looking at Matt... only thing it is stamped on the shinko "not for use of speeds over 165mph"
that is what I was going by...
or that is the way i understood it anyway... I could have misunderstood it I am sure...
hmm, I just went out and looked at one of mine and sho'nuff, it's molded right there only it's 168mph. Interesting that it's only on the left side of the tire though.
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posted January 11, 2007 11:27 PM
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Food for thought, you can get 2 race take-off rear supercorsas for the price of 1 new shinko.
Mine went 208 mph
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posted January 12, 2007 08:46 PM
 Edited By: shiphteey on 12 Jan 2007 20:50
Bonneville. 10 mph headwind I ran 197 @ the trap, 199 on GPS on spray, rpms BARELY MOVING in 6th approaching redline.
10 mph tailwind same gearing I ran 206 thru the traps, 208 on GPS. I would like to point out that the bike "could" have gone faster but I had 18/44 gearing on it and had to keep letting off the nitrous button 100 rpms before the limiter, then it would fall back down 100 rpms, then I'd hit the button again to keep my "avg" up thru the flying mile trap....button dance....man I'm sure I had 210+ if I had gone down another tooth in the rear.....but I didn't wanna gear for almost 215 mph with a little 40 shot.....
As it stood I only managed 193.xx mph on GPS AND TRAPS flat out with that gearing no wind no spray. Shows how picking gearing too tall even flat out for miles won't get you to the MPH you need. I was playing w/different tucks but the RPMS sat somewhere before if not right @ redline.
I really trust Supercorsas. Now I cycle them off from my track day gixxer 600 so I know where the tire has been. Supposedly not as much tire growth with a pirelli so it helps keep your mph projections a little more consistent (presumably).
I would like to point out that w/the Supercorsa you can REALLY high psi (like LSR Stuff) in them and they STILL hook reasonably well. They are very close with the Shinkos in grip from what others report. Who wants to run top end on a heavy tire that is only rated for 600cc type speeds? And don't you have to really drop the psi down to get them to work properly? Low psi is a bad idea for top end runs (TRUST ME!) I have been able to hook with 50-55 psi in the rear and cut 1.6 60 fts on a stock wheelbase zx12 w/no burnout. Supercorsas rock. And they weigh what.....1-2 lbs less at least? Fuggedaboutit!
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posted January 13, 2007 10:54 AM
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10 mph tailwind same gearing I ran 206 thru the traps, 208 on GPS. A.
10 mph tailwind? Geez!!!
I ran 300 mph, downhill, in a local Tornado. I had to hang near a trailer park for a week, waiting for one to hit....a lot cheaper than going out to Bonneville!
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posted January 13, 2007 11:14 AM
I was one of the last runs, they almost didn't let me go but I told em if I'm fighting the 10 mph headwind its only fair to let me get my 10 mph tailwind. It was 9.xx mph but you know how the wind varies...
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