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zx12richard


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posted May 20, 2002 07:27 AM        Edited By: zx12richard on 20 May 2002 08:35
Cryogenic Metal Treatment/ Muzzy Question....

Hey guys give me some opinions...... I possibly may have a connection to get Cryogenic Metal Treatment Maybe hopefully free or very low cost......

The question is.......

Do you all think it would be worth getting the Muzzy Billit clutch basket/clutch hub/clutch plates/clutch steels treated?????????????

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posted May 20, 2002 07:30 AM        Edited By: Rocket J on 28 May 2002 00:43
I think that it is a good idea...

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zx12richard


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posted May 20, 2002 08:25 AM        
Nobody got any opinions on this?????
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big12


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posted May 20, 2002 08:27 AM        
What is that suppose to do? I never heard of such a thing.
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zx12richard


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posted May 20, 2002 08:48 AM        Edited By: zx12richard on 20 May 2002 09:49
Heres a link to read about it..... First link I found....

http://www.mitchellcryogenics.com

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blkrnbow


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posted May 20, 2002 08:51 AM        
cryo

Basically they freeze whatever they are treating to about -300 using liquid nitrogen, then warm it to room temperature, then heat it to about +400, then bring back to room temperature. It (as far as I know) is used more for industrial drilling equipment and large saws etc etc. But will strengthen metals.

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zx12richard


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posted May 20, 2002 10:53 AM        
Wonder if it would help clutch steels life and the basket???? Thanxxxxx I appreciate it...
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posted May 20, 2002 11:40 AM        
I have heard both sides of this debate, what I wanted to do. which I havent yet, was to take a plain jane aluminum sprocket and have it done.. then go out and just thrash it as hard as I could and then take one that has not been done and do the same and compair the diffrence...
but I have never done it yet.. but I would still like to give it a try sometime....
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posted May 20, 2002 01:38 PM        
Some guys do this on every thing from slotcar motors to rifle barrels. May or maynot help but probably can't hurt.
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posted May 20, 2002 01:45 PM        
I don't know shit about cryogenic freezing (Dr. Evil did that didn't he? ) but I can't imagine that it would be doing anything more than seasoning the metal and putting it through the heat cycles it would normally go through. Much the same as an engine block expands and contracts when it's under operating temps. But, like I said, I don't know shit about cryogenic freezing, I'm a wee bit curious about it myself....
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posted May 20, 2002 06:03 PM        
I have a cryogenically treated driver in my golf bag and I drive the ball 25% deeper into the woods than before. What does that tell you?
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posted May 20, 2002 06:43 PM        
Not to golf with ya... You will spend all day looking for your balls????? Just joking... Sounds like it must be harder.....
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posted May 20, 2002 06:52 PM        
We do that kind of stuff at work all the time. We use the liquid nitrogen and pour it into a cylinder (with a part inside), freeze it to temp using a thermal infrared temp gun, then put it into the heater (set at 450 degrees).

Most of the time it's for putting slip rings over a shaft. You'd be amazed on how much the materials with shrink and expand.

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2fast12r


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posted May 20, 2002 08:11 PM        
I will say this, i've never had anything done but did have a presentation on it once about 4 years ago and it seems like the way to go they did everything I beleive they even did a disposible razor and i lasted 300% longer than a non treated razor.
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Ed_00_12R


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posted May 28, 2002 06:47 AM        
One of the most important things about cryo treatment is to make sure to control the rate of temperature change. We have a computer controlled cryo treatment machine here and the results definitely surprised me.

One of the guys here treated his son's aluminum bat. He says his son hit the ball 20% farther than before. It also changed the sound charateristics of the bat. It no longer produces that hollow "tink" sound. It sounds like a wooden bat. Needless to say, we have lots of people wating to treat their kids bats. (Cryo treated bats have been banned from use in NCAA college baseball because of how much faster the falls come off the bats)

I'm going to treat my brake rotors soon.
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