posted April 20, 2002 07:38 AM
Crash Protectors If any body is interested I am lending my damaged 12 to R and G frame protectors at the end of the month so that they can produce a set for it. I use frame protectors on my race bikes and swear by them, I tried to find some for the 12 and had no results.
As soon as they are done I will post photo's and info.
posted April 20, 2002 07:41 AM
Thanks Where will they mount to?
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posted April 22, 2002 03:25 AM
It`s about bloody time!!!! I have been looking for crash protectors for over a year now and so far nothing!. I've tried Japan, Europe, Canada and the good old U.S of A. Every one says there's no suitable mounts for them. When they are ready I will definitly buy some.
posted April 22, 2002 07:07 AM
I could have used a set this weekend. After the races Friday night I had my bike on the trailer and got off and forgot about the Lowering Links making it tippy! SHit CRASH! Cracked the front fairing! Oh well nows it got character! HAHAHAHAHA! Need sum a dem adjustable stands I guess!
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posted April 22, 2002 09:38 AM
Who volunteers to test the final product?
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posted April 22, 2002 11:41 AM
Mountin points I took a look underneath all the mangled plastic after my very embarrasing, and rather scary, 15mph high side and think the way to go is to use the blanked off bolt hole on the r/h side off the engine casing. Link this to a cnc'd ally brace from two or three points on the l/h side, but the clever bit I reckon will be to use a frangible crush tube in the cross engine strut so that the impact energy is absorbed/dissipated rather than transfered to the frame and engine cases, rather like a collapsiable steering column on a car.
Well that's the theory......but R&G do protectors for lots of other bikes. www.rg-racing.com.
posted April 22, 2002 01:16 PM
I've been trying to figure out where to mount some for two years. We'd make 'em If I could see a place to mount 'em.
Doug
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posted April 22, 2002 01:56 PM
No takers? OK dammit, I'll test the things myself!!!
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posted April 23, 2002 03:54 PM
Edited By: sossei on 23 Apr 2002 16:59
the new parts unlimited catalog has some sliders made by lightning products. says there is no fairing mods required to install them either. has anyone seen or heard of anyone with these?
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posted April 23, 2002 07:29 PM
I ordered some Magic Mushroom frame sliders from Revolution Superbikes back in November. They still have not come in yet. They must still be in the design phase.
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'12 1199S
posted April 23, 2002 07:39 PM
Magic Mushrooms Here is a photo of some installed MM sliders installed on a 2000 zx12. Looks like they cut the fairing to install. I dont know how you would avoid cutting.
posted April 24, 2002 05:13 PM
I need a set for my ZX6-R.
Problem being the bolt holes are too short and the frame saver/sliders, just snap off on my bike.
Hubbie bought me a set of Aluminum ones that 'someguy' had made, but I wasn't ready to be the first one out to test them.
posted April 25, 2002 07:13 AM
Yeah,
One of my "design criteria" was no fairing cutting. I decided no way.
Doug
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posted May 20, 2002 12:04 PM
Frame protectors: update adn request to doug Meyer The latest hot poop news.... R&G never picked up the bike, didn't hear from them for two weeks and then told me they had another one. I don't want to run them down but they knew nothing about the 12 so little concerned what they are going to do.
Based on this I have done some design work, I am an engineer by profession, and am 95% confident with what I have done. They are going to mount using a well braced and supported part of the frame with a triangulated support. No fairing cutting is involved as of yet. The prototypes are being made next week, and should be out on my business partners bike for evaluation and feedback in 3-4 weeks. projected price is in the region of £120(uk) and will endeavour to keep price as low as possible for users of this site. As soon as I am able I will post pics and info to anyone interested, to receive this please drop me an e-mither to vtwin916@hotmail.com.
On a similar note, Doug, you said in an earlier posting in this thread that you had looked at this problem before and had not seen a way of doing it without cutting the fairing. I think I saw a way of doing it after about 10 minutes and this worries me. Not because you have got it wrong, more likely I have! Could you drop me an e-mail and then I can give you an idea of what we are looking at and you could give me your feedback, this would be much appreciated.
posted June 01, 2002 12:04 PM
Latest update Well, design work is all done. Included laying a 12 on its' side and measurimg contact points. Prototype is being made in the next week or so. Will be black anodised 6082 T-6 aluminium with Cast Nylon 6 sliders, securely mounted from the frame. Will be doing some product testing, laying the bike on its' side with protectors fitted and some impact testing to check the strength of the mountings and then all being well on sale in the next 4 weeks. Am also looking into a complete "crash protector" package with fork leg and swingarm protectors. Update soon, hang on in there any one waiting!!!!
posted June 01, 2002 12:06 PM
P.S. R & G racing gave up, said it couldn't be done. Had a look at the givi product and it looks like a set of 1940's frame bars. Doesn't really gel with the 21st century 12!!!
Count me in buddy. Like I said before I want these real bad. Also, I saw your post on Busa to the Max about a full race type body kit for the 12. Any news on this yet?.
posted June 03, 2002 01:23 PM
Bodywork Ninja, first off we are just going to do a race or road version of the standard 12 bodywork, in fibreglass. The laminator/mould maker is ready for us, the jubilee bank holiday weekend has put things back a week or so, but everything should be ready for 2-3 weeks.
Plans for the next step: produce a slimmed down seat unit, possibly with an integral LED tail light a la R1. Would like to do an underseat exhaust system, similar to the ducati GP prototypes seen in the press which would mean a dedicated seat unit.
I am in a loose partnership with another 12 owner who has a kit car company and we intend on producing for retail the crash protectors, fairings, Ohlins steering damper mounting kit, heavy duty alternator and clutch covers plus more stuff in the future. However talk is cheap, so we will get the frame protectors and fairings out first.
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