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posted April 16, 2002 04:22 AM
Oil Filter Alternatives
I remembered a post a while back that listed all sorts of alternate oil filters for Hondas. It was amazing how many were compatible. I don't recall, however, if they also fit Kawasakis. Anyone know if we have the same vast array to choose from? (I'm talking standard, not SS wire mesh)
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posted April 16, 2002 05:49 AM
There is only 1 choice for a filter, the stock OEM, I would never use anything else.
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posted April 16, 2002 06:56 AM
STP oil filter from Auto Zone SMO-17 Have never used oem oil filters on both bikes with the zx12 at 10,000 miles a Busa at 13,000 miles Both engines where apart with no sign of wear. OEM is a waste of money.
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posted April 16, 2002 06:57 AM
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There is only 1 choice for a filter, the stock OEM, I would never use anything else.
Agreed, the others just don't stack up.
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posted April 16, 2002 07:53 AM
Found the post
This is the post I was refering to: http://www.bikeland.org/board//viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=1855
I was just at the stealership and they wanted $13 for a stock filter. I gotta do better than that. Thanks for the replies fellers.
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posted April 16, 2002 07:55 AM
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Nearly 3x LESS cost for a stock OEM 12R filter than the local stealership quoted me.
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posted April 16, 2002 12:05 PM
OEM is not a waste of money if you have a warranty issue and they try to blame it on the filter. Besides everyone can get a price break on stuff, its not that expensive. Ya dont use cheap oil, so why use a cheap filter 
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posted April 16, 2002 03:44 PM
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I've used the 1063 filter since the first oil change. The 1070 filters were not yet available and the 1063 (KMC's most common filter - used on 7R, 6R, etc.) was an approved substitute. The 1063 is slightly bigger then the 1070, but besides that, there's no difference. Besides the price.
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posted April 16, 2002 11:12 PM
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OEM is not a waste of money if you have a warranty issue and they try to blame it on the filter. Besides everyone can get a price break on stuff, its not that expensive. Ya dont use cheap oil, so why use a cheap filter
I can understand if it is a warranty issue but I don't understand the logic why I should pay more ( two aftermarket to the one oem) for an oem oil filter when the aftermarket is just as good. Motorcycle manufacturers don't make their own oil filters and I don't use motorcycle oils when the car sync. oils are just as good if not better than motorcycle oils. So, yes I think it is a waste of money 
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posted April 17, 2002 03:51 AM
Well ordinarilly I would agree, but after the Fram fiasco a few years back, Ive decided that with *spin on* filters Id rather use OEM.
Ron Ayers sells the filters for $8 (which means their cost is about $6) which is 1/2 what the dealer wants.
A local "discount" M/C shop sells the Fram replacements for $6, so price difference isnt that big. I think the *lube* authority (Lubricity) on this board can back up the fact that Fram is an inferior filter. Your money, your choice though.
Im with you on the *car oil* theory. Im the same way, as I change the oil often enough to not worry about viscosity loss.
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I can understand if it is a warranty issue but I don't understand the logic why I should pay more ( two aftermarket to the one oem) for an oem oil filter when the aftermarket is just as good. Motorcycle manufacturers don't make their own oil filters and I don't use motorcycle oils when the car sync. oils are just as good if not better than motorcycle oils. So, yes I think it is a waste of money
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posted April 17, 2002 05:04 AM
 Edited By: 12RPilot on 17 Apr 2002 06:05
I do stay away from Fram. I am going to try to rig up some sort of testing rig at work. Shouldn't be too hard to pump hot oil through a variety of filters and then measure how well they flow and how well they remove various impurities I introduce into the oil. Now if the damn tire factory would just quit running seven days a week so I could get into the machine shop....
BTW, any comments on the article I referenced?
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posted April 17, 2002 05:12 AM
Whatta ya do when the local dealer sells Fram filters as "stock?"
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posted April 17, 2002 05:39 AM
Stop going to dealerships for parts 
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posted April 17, 2002 06:41 AM
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I did. Got a nice supply f/local auto parts store. But I tend to buy something every time I go in the dealer, so buy a filter once & awhile anyway. I now have a lifetime supply... 
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