ZX12R_NJ
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posted October 28, 2008 12:35 PM
Can somebody attach and e-mail me the Enginuity program. I keep downloading it and I get a java.io.filenotfoundexception: C:\Program Files\Enginuity\lib\j3dcore-ogl-cg.dll Anybody wanna help??? I want to get into my ECU bad
  
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KZScott
Needs a life
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posted October 28, 2008 08:57 PM
i think you have to buy it....?
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RidgeRacer
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posted October 31, 2008 06:03 AM
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Can somebody attach and e-mail me the Enginuity program. I keep downloading it and I get a java.io.filenotfoundexception: C:\Program Files\Enginuity\lib\j3dcore-ogl-cg.dll Anybody wanna help??? I want to get into my ECU bad
Enginuity is a Java application and will not run without a current version of Java installed on your computer. If you don't have Java you can get it from http://www.java.com
Also FYI Enginuity had a trade name conflict with some other ECU flash product and changed their name to RomRaider. They can now be found at http://www.romraider.com
Their software is still unlimited freeware.
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ZX12R_NJ
Novice Class
Stretched ZX12
Posts: 56
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posted October 31, 2008 05:29 PM
Next question, does anyone have the factory fuel map downloaded for the 02-03 bike they could post? the .bin file. I want to get familiar with the program before I go actually touching anything on my ECU
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Fasttimez
Novice Class
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posted November 30, 2008 05:51 PM
Has anyone been able to hack or remap an ECU for a 05 ZX12 ? I think they changed from 16 bit to 32 bit in 04, but I could be wrong.
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2000redrocket
Pro
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posted December 02, 2008 02:56 PM
pm ridge racer and see if he still has the bin files. i only have the A1 now since i had to format my computer. i will look around and see if i get luckey.
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TireKiller
Parking Attendant
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posted December 02, 2008 04:19 PM
I know this is the ZX12 Forum, but I feel more ppl in here know whats going on.. I have an 08ZX10R and I was so sure I saw that kawasaki sold a cable and software to tune the stock ECU.. IS this so?? if so where the heck can I get it, cause I coulda swore I saw it for the 08 and now I can't find it..
THanks.
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2000redrocket
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posted March 08, 2009 04:49 PM
bump
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whitehendrix
Zone Head
fails!
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posted March 09, 2009 10:53 PM
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I know this is the ZX12 Forum, but I feel more ppl in here know whats going on.. I have an 08ZX10R and I was so sure I saw that kawasaki sold a cable and software to tune the stock ECU.. IS this so?? if so where the heck can I get it, cause I coulda swore I saw it for the 08 and now I can't find it..
THanks.
i'm pretty damn sure that the stocker is sealed like the others.. thay really want ya to but the race kit ECU.. THEN you can spend more money on the cables too.. and line kawi's corporate bank account that way instead.
RR will probably know 100% tho.
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ZX12R_NJ
Novice Class
Stretched ZX12
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posted March 10, 2009 03:40 PM
I have a question...........what would the ecu do if the grn/red wire going from the tranny switch to the ECU was cut? Would the bike essentially not run? I have been playing with a few things the last couple days.......just curious
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2000redrocket
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posted March 10, 2009 05:04 PM
zx12r nj did you get anywere with the enginuity and the like from your prior posts? are you tuening the ecu yet?
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ZX12R_NJ
Novice Class
Stretched ZX12
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posted March 10, 2009 05:09 PM
I was hoping you would reply. could you e-mail me...I had everything on my work computer and have switched employers....lost everything....my e-mail is njryder84@yahoo.com I cant convert the s19 file to bin because i keep getting this error message that my computer runs in 32 bit or something...I dont know. Maybe could be possible for you to convert 03 to bin and e-mail me. What do you think of my previous post. I bypassed first gear back to ECU and have jumped to 2nd, but if that wasnt hooked up (interfering with gear indicator) would the bike still run. I want to get into the ECU but lost all. Just downloaded rom raider but cant read the s19 files.
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2000redrocket
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posted March 10, 2009 06:14 PM
i would put the wireing back to stock. i think the 03 map you can get full power.
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2000redrocket
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posted March 16, 2009 07:07 PM
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ZX12R_NJ
Novice Class
Stretched ZX12
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posted March 17, 2009 01:03 PM
I finally got an opportunity to get my ECU notched out today. Took it back out to the bike after getting the board exposed to make sure I didnt knick anything (success!!!). Can the 8 prong plug be purchased at radio shack or is that something I have to find elsewhere?
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2000redrocket
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posted March 17, 2009 04:27 PM
i am not sure. i may poke around and look. nhonestly i forgot it was 8 on the board. i know it was tough getting the solder out of the board holes to get the pins in. need a solder sucker.
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2000redrocket
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posted March 17, 2009 05:13 PM
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=99460&p=3&topicID=14099111
this is a place to go to read about everything.fish around and RR had everything covered.
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2000redrocket
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posted March 17, 2009 05:15 PM
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=99460&p=3&topicID=14007090
read this also explaneing the making of the cable.
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wby300
Novice Class
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posted May 17, 2009 11:14 AM
More information?
Alright guys, I am planning to get my ecu done in the next couple weeks, I need all the information that has been aquired since the last post here, I have been on the other sites about ths and there seems to be much more info here. Anyone who has been playing with values on there 2001 12? What amounts are good to start with and what to adjust. I want to smooth out the throttle and wouldnt mind adding some timing to it, also information on the A-B map stuff, like how. I have a stock 2001, right now it has a set of K&N filters with a Muzzy Ti oval bolt on, I have a full Muzzy stainless race pipe and BMC filters waiting to go on it. I am going to tear it down and check everything inside this winter, replace seals and maybe get some head work done.
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2000redrocket
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posted May 17, 2009 11:42 AM
i only have expearence with the 2000 but for me if i am close say 13.4 and want 12.9 to 13.0 only change the value on my year by 3 numbers at the most. 5 number change is to much for being close.
get a data logger to help you adjust the afr. it will help point to a area in the density map to start changing by the map sensor. the wego3 (and i bet wego4) have a scalable input 5vdc. so it makes it eaiser to try and get close to the correct vacume colum to adjust. i was rideing around with a car vacume guage on my tank at first that reads in cmhg. it helped.
if you get a logger try to get one that has a scalable input or else you are just looking at voltage readings and have to correct everything till you get a idea what is what.
on a simulated dyno pull (pin it in third gear on a flat road at 4000 and go to the limiter) i first changed the density map values for that and it did not change anything. i changed the values in the rpm vs tps and it was perfect. a change of 7 went from 12.7 to 13.4 afr.
sofar no one really knows at which point they go from density (rpm vs map) to a-n (rpm vs tps) that posts here. i know it did not help on the 3rd gear blast to do the density on my upper rpm issues but the a-n change fixed the upper rpm stuff but left the 6000 rich area almost the same.
you are going to have to do some reading to see what wires to switch for map a vs map b. also there is a pin on a plug for the ecu that needs stuffed to allow you to erase the ecu to re flash it.
this is not easy if you are a techy if you are not a techy you will need some one close to you.
you need to read, look at 01 wireing diagrams, make a box that gives a regulated voltage to that pin you need to invent in one of the ecu plugs. plus open up the ecu and be carefull soldering the pins in.
good luck and be carefull. i got lucky doing mine correctly i think.
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wby300
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posted May 17, 2009 11:59 AM
Thats why I am on here, I am not a tech guy, but it seems stupid to get dynojet stuff and add more things to mess with when it can all be had with the stock box. The part that bothers me is making adjustments and not knowing what they do till after the fact. I do plan on only doing small adjustments though. I actually have no idea what you are talking about with afr and when the ecu switches over to something else? Is there something else in the maps I would need to mess with other than the fuel and timing? I want to do this, but if it will be too much for the average guy, I will just have the rev limiter changed and the restriction removed. I am fairly good mechanical, if it was engine or carbs I could do about anything, not real knowledgable on the electronics side of machines.
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wby300
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posted May 17, 2009 12:02 PM
oh yea, and my bike runs very rich probably around cruising speed in I would gess 6th, I got it a month or so ago and the plugs fouled after the first ride, so who ever had it either never changed them or it runs rich, the guy didnt ride like I do, he was a highway rider, I will do the majority of my riding above 6k rpm
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2000redrocket
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posted May 17, 2009 01:17 PM
there are two fuel maps. one is speed density the other is a-n. you drive around it seems on the density map. that map uses rpm and manifold vacume compaired to out side pressure (barometer) that map has a bunch of vacume colums left to right is lots of vacume like high rpms not much load or decelerating. as you go to the right it gets more to no vacume and them positive pressure from ram air. you figure out where in that map you are riding in when rich or lean and adjust that area. the muzzy pipe has me going lower numbers in the 1900 to 2600 rpm range. i had to invent my own steps between the colums also. above 4000 i think stock map it was real rich also. etc.
the a-n map is the number the computer looks at when you pull a lot of throttle.and it seams like it looks at it if you keep it wide open also.
afr is air fuel ratio.
as far as doing it your self up to the point of turning on a computer to talk to it it is all sort of mechanical to a point. find this plug add wire to open hole the above links explane most of if not all of it.
ace performance does tuneing that way if you are close. or send it and have him mail it back. u are going to have to lean it out in spots and add fuel in others some how or you will get good at changing plugs and opening your wallet for gas. i can get 39 real mpg with my 2000 12r with 16/44 gearing and full muzzy. dyno nice numbers and 9.63 in the 1/4 is all in a days work for my 12.(like 1 down in front stock rear almost) but i have a good bit of time learning how to do it.
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wby300
Novice Class
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posted May 17, 2009 01:43 PM
Wow, I am getting about 140-150 mpg. I understand the whole adjustment thing, now I even understand what your saying about vaccum and pressure. I downloaded the maps on the ecu hacking site so I can look at all of them and get familiar. I do plan to send my ecu and have the plug installed and get the programming battery and all as a package. sounds pretty fun actually to play with the ecu and get satisfaction in knowing you did it yourself.
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2000redrocket
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posted May 17, 2009 02:02 PM
who is doing it 4 u? you need the box also. getting that also?
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