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posted April 20, 2006 10:27 AM
 Edited By: jhinderliter on 18 May 2006 12:32
another motor swap question (revisited)
sorry to bug you guys...i saw a thread on this before but didnt get a warm fuzzy from it...slapping a 00 into a 01...any issues or tips you gurus can think of?
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ninja12
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posted April 20, 2006 12:12 PM
3 choices
1. change the ecu to match the engine(exhaust cam)
2. change the exhaust cam to match the ecu year. shim needed.
3. move the pick up on the end of the exhaust cam to match the one from the ecu yr.
Point blank: Kawi moved the expected reference point on the exhaust cam.
example .... 00 may have the TDC referance at 3 oclock and 01 at 6.
if you want to use 01 engine move the pick-up to 3.
Look at the exhaust cam on the old engine and make the tit on the new one point the same direction. Just use a grinder to remove the place holder.
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posted April 20, 2006 12:19 PM
I just went through this. Swap your original exhaust cam into your new motor..... Remember to check your valve clearance after the cam swap. The exhaust cams are different from 00 and 01... they index the cam sensor in a different spot. That's the only issue we had. Roy.
P.S. swap the cams and check your valve clearance with the motor out of the frame. WAY easier.....
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posted April 20, 2006 08:42 PM
do you have any idea how easy it is to pull that pick-up off the end of the cam?
I think its 1 5mm bolt. then 2 minutes with a grinder.
Cam is easy to sway BUT you will probably have to reshim at least one valve.
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posted April 24, 2006 06:58 PM
There are people making new pick-ups for the end of the cam. 5 minute fix. PM for info.
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posted May 18, 2006 11:42 AM
ok...I got the motor bolted up and got the pick-ups swapped...my bike will start and run but it seems very rich...its idling like crap and blubbers when the throttle is rolled on...its a 2000 engine bolting into a 2001...i followed ninja12 sugestion...im wondering if the pick-up is indexed incorrectly? any advice would be appriciated
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posted May 18, 2006 12:33 PM
That's a great engine!!! LOL
It came outta 'ol blue, in my avatar.
Wish I knew what the problem is.....
Can't wait for your opinion on how it runs. I think it's very strong.
jeff
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jhinderliter
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posted May 18, 2006 12:39 PM
hey jeff good to hear from you!! im sure its something goofy...it Rs up strong its just way rich...
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posted May 18, 2006 06:19 PM
You have the TPS plug on the Map sensor I bet. The TPS plug on the throttle bodies should be black. The map sensor with the vacuum line in it is grey. Check it out and see if you have them backwards!!!
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posted May 18, 2006 08:18 PM
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You have the TPS plug on the Map sensor I bet. The TPS plug on the throttle bodies should be black. The map sensor with the vacuum line in it is grey. Check it out and see if you have them backwards!!!
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I bet you're right.
I hope he didn't kill the map sensor.
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ninja12
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posted May 18, 2006 08:21 PM
I'm glad it worked for you but we better give Doug Meyer credit for that find on the pick-up.
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posted May 19, 2006 03:52 PM
So......how does it run???
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posted May 21, 2006 06:07 PM
What did he find out???
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posted May 23, 2006 12:06 PM
hey guys sorry it took so long to update...i was busy all weekend defending the IL / WI border from the red horde 
anyway i pass 5.0 and ninja 12s advice on to my buddy over the phone on sat and it looks as tho they were 100% right on what was wrong...he seems to be very pleased with how the bike runs and im picking it up on fri after work... i would also like to take this opportunity to publicly thank 12r1 for
1. Giving me a smokin deal on a sweet engine
2. going out of your way to meet my buddy on I-80 and loading said engine
3. for being so helpful during our phone conversations
you go down on the 'good dude' list for sure!!!
thanks again!!!!
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posted May 23, 2006 12:58 PM
Awesome, Justin. That's what all this is all about.
Makes my day to hear you so pleased with it. Many happy miles to come, I'm sure.
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posted May 23, 2006 01:53 PM
Man I am good!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted May 29, 2006 11:09 AM
hey guys rode the beast 250 miles yesterday and it runs pretty good...got a few litte problems tho...the FI light stays on the the bike seems to be searching for an idle...it idles around 1k and surges about 400 rpm hi and lo...it idles fine when i first start it but when it gets warm the idle surges and it seems to load up a bit...cleans up fine when i get into the throttle tho...any ideas?
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jhinderliter
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posted May 29, 2006 11:36 AM
sorry about the lack of details.... Full muzzy pipe K&N and yosh EMS
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posted May 29, 2006 05:28 PM
Might be something else, but sometimes when you have the TPS and Map sensor backwards like he did it will get the map sensor. Its the same one thats on the rear, so swap them out and see what happens. It will run better with the bad one on the rear. If thats it I have used ones.
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jhinderliter
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posted May 29, 2006 05:48 PM
sounds good ill give that a shot....will the FI light reset on its own or is there a reset proceedure?
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posted June 01, 2006 11:54 AM
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ninja12
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posted June 01, 2006 08:54 PM
make sure the vacuum line to the baro sensor above TPS is connected to the TB .
check plugs, and the crank pick-up spacing inside the cover on the right side.
I think the FI light reset every time you cycle the key. I may be wrong.
IF so just disconnect the battery overnight.
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