navpreet318
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posted March 12, 2006 08:32 AM
repairing a crack in the fairing
well i hit a cat at high speed....actually the cat hit me.....
its head hit the lower fairing....right at the place where there's a hole for checking the engine oil level....and there's a crack....
those of you wondering what happened to the cat...well it got up and left .....and i was screaming at that stupid animal causin a crack in my babe's fairin....
now i don't have any special shops here tackling this kind of problem....
what i need to know is that what is the name and the composition of an adhesive which can bond the fairing to its original strength and not cause any damage to the plastic.....
another thing is that i would need a filler to shape it up cause a small part of the fairin is broken....
help me out guys.....
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rodtice
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posted March 12, 2006 12:15 PM
You can fiberglass it from the rear for strength, but for filling you will have to get a plastic welder.
OR my body guy fixed a faring on my Concours by using a product called 4040. Its an adheasive and it filled. He was just an autobody guy, but worked great and bonded some broken tabs with steel screen reinforcing.
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crashtech
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posted March 12, 2006 02:47 PM
AAHHHHH! 4040 and my personal fav. 4050 duramix ROCKS on rigid plastics! I could walk you through it but it is rather critical to get it right once and fast. Trust me you have to screw up a few before it starts looking pretty. I could just fix it back for you good as new if interhested (brettsbikeworks@bellsouth.net). You can get the 4040/ 4050 at most auto body jobbers (go to body shop and ask where they buy there paint from) for about 25-35 bucks a cartridge. 50 bucks for the applicater gun and 12 bucks for bag of mixing tips. Then finish and paint. If you are looking for a "fuck it, aint mine" fix just clean with virgin thinner and apply super glue gel, place both sides together and before dries wipe clean excess with more thinner and polish after dries. hope this helps, Brett
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Wideout
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posted March 12, 2006 04:09 PM
Crash - Navpreet lives kinda far away to be doing it for him. I'm sure he appreciates the tips though.
A body man fixed mine using some sort of 3M Plastic/Rubber repair. Looks good as new from the outside and has been fine for well over a year. He repainted the entire fairing though.
Many people say they've had good luck with 2 part epoxy.
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navpreet318
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posted March 13, 2006 08:56 AM
well thank you so much for the offer to do it for me...but alas i live in india....
i doubt i'll get 4040 here....tell me its chemical name or something...them maybe i find it.....other then that i'm planning to join it with a epoxy based resin....its like mixing a glue and a hardner (50-50)
...then when that dries up......i'll take a fibreglass tape....wet it with another epoxy based glue+hardner(40-60) and that should strengthen it up nicely.....
and regarding that broken piece....its very small to be noticed and there isn't and plastic welder near by
another thing is that i won't be repainting it....i can't get high quality paint here in small quantity...i'll have to buy a whole can...which'll be rather expensive.....
the paint over the crack has not peeled off....
what do you guys say......
i'll only start once i read your replies.....so do give this a thought.....
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navpreet318
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posted March 13, 2006 09:02 AM
crash can you let me know the chemical name and some details about this 4040 duramix.....i think i can get it here maybe...but i need to know the chemical....what we get here is a silicon based resin in that kind of a cartridge and applicator gun....let me know the chemical composition also....
thanks....
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posted March 13, 2006 02:43 PM
I had the same problem and i had a body shop plastic weld the fairing then repainted it and it looks great, you cant even tell, you might want to let a body shop look at it. It cost me 200 dollars.
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blitzkrieg
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posted March 13, 2006 06:29 PM
Lets help them out here Navpreet.
Here is where Navpreet lives. Plastic weld and custom paint shops are a little scarce. 
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navpreet318
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posted March 13, 2006 11:50 PM
now THAT is exactly my point.....i have to do everything myself....can't trust even the best guy out here....dame my bike is the only superbike in my city....people go crazy over it....you can imagine if i take it to some shop what'll be the scene like....
so i gotta do it myself.....can't buy a plastic welding machine now but i soon will....
for now help me with the chemical composition of that 4040 stuff....tell me what is it.....
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navpreet318
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posted March 13, 2006 11:55 PM
ok lets see i've found something in my house....its a
"General Purpose Glazing Silicone Sealant"
its in cartridge form and requires a application gun to work.....is this what is called 4040....help me out guys.......
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navpreet318
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posted March 13, 2006 11:56 PM
BTW bob its that time of the year when max forign tourists come to my state...so when are you comin.....????tandoori is ready to flow.......
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canadamaxxer
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posted March 14, 2006 04:10 AM
 Edited By: canadamaxxer on 14 Mar 2006 04:11
You can order Plastex online.....http://plastex.home.att.net/. It works well to repair cracks, etc....
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blitzkrieg
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posted March 14, 2006 06:27 PM
quote:
BTW bob its that time of the year when max forign tourists come to my state...so when are you comin.....????tandoori is ready to flow.......
One of these days Navpreet.
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plasticweld
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posted March 16, 2006 06:32 AM
Edited By: plasticweld on 16 Mar 2006 06:33
quote:
well i hit a cat at high speed....actually the cat hit me.....
its head hit the lower fairing....right at the place where there's a hole for checking the engine oil level....and there's a crack....
those of you wondering what happened to the cat...well it got up and left .....and i was screaming at that stupid animal causin a crack in my babe's fairin....
now i don't have any special shops here tackling this kind of problem....
what i need to know is that what is the name and the composition of an adhesive which can bond the fairing to its original strength and not cause any damage to the plastic.....
another thing is that i would need a filler to shape it up cause a small part of the fairin is broken....
help me out guys.....
We weld and repair motorcycle plastic, it is re-enforced with stainless steel mesh to make it even stronger than it was orginally, you can check out examples of the parts that we have repaired and view before, during and after pictures, we also repair dented fuel tanks
Just go here
http://empiregp.com/
and go to the top of the page and click on examples for repaired parts
a EX 500 cowl that was smashed and repaired and painted for about half the cost of new
all of our contact info is there quotes are free
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Ozzy
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posted March 16, 2006 06:09 PM
www.plastex.net
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