Marcos Peguero
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posted December 03, 2005 05:08 PM
shnits vel stacks
This company is selling vel, stacks, I was thinking of bears but I think they are hard to buy and $$, so I see in the add that they have a low profile ones.
I dont know the diference compared to stock, I sent them a email.
I whant 5mm short ones, because they give more top end, acording to some guys here like 10 real HP with ram air, since the top speed is gained.
Anyone have tried this ones?
Thanks
   
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posted December 04, 2005 08:56 AM
LOL 10hp stacks
good one!
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rc51eviltwin
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posted December 04, 2005 07:46 PM
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LOL 10hp stacks
good one!
+++++++1 LOL
maybe .10
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Marcos Peguero
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posted December 05, 2005 04:01 AM
Im refering that those -12 hp on the dyno are more with the bike running.
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VincentHill
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posted December 05, 2005 07:31 AM
Post the site and my question is are you referring to the "Performance" Gain at 200 MPH needing to be about 12 to 15 HP or actually seen on the Dyno?? I have done as much or more testing of SHort stacks as the Next person but I have never been able to document more than "3" HP Gain "Static" on the Dyno. Are you also mispelling "Schnitz"??
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Marcos Peguero
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posted December 05, 2005 10:04 AM
That is what Im refering VH.
And the Schnitz ones are muzzys one, then Im not interested.
Bears anyone???
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VincentHill
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posted December 05, 2005 10:54 AM
Schnitz Sells "Several" Brands (Factory Pro, Muzzy and one I do not know for the Hyabusa)
Again, my question is shnits vel stacks Did you just mispell Schnitz or is this someone else??
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Marcos Peguero
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posted December 05, 2005 02:04 PM
Remember Vincent, Im a Dominican, I mispell the word.
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VincentHill
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posted December 05, 2005 02:20 PM
 Edited By: VincentHill on 5 Dec 2005 14:20
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Remember Vincent, Im a Dominican, I mispell the word.
I know but I was not sure what word you were mispelling?? 
Remember,
If you speak 2 languages you are called ?? Bi-Lingual!
If you speak 3 languages you are called ?? Tri-Lingual
But if you only speak 1 Language what are you called??
"American" 
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posted December 05, 2005 05:55 PM
quote:
quote:
Remember Vincent, Im a Dominican, I mispell the word.
I know but I was not sure what word you were mispelling??
Remember,
If you speak 2 languages you are called ?? Bi-Lingual!
If you speak 3 languages you are called ?? Tri-Lingual
But if you only speak 1 Language what are you called??
"American"
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha too much, I guess I am lucky being I am Bi-lingual and an American
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Marcos Peguero
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posted December 05, 2005 06:12 PM
I know 3
english and VH corrects me (thank GOD ). (the interesting thing is that Im a translator) of course I USE 3 real translators I only charge the $$$ (the hard part).
Dominican, fast and cut spanish.
spanish.
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wheeliekev
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posted December 06, 2005 06:14 AM
would any of the stacks improve the midrange/torque on an untuned bike ?
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VincentHill
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posted December 06, 2005 07:50 AM
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would any of the stacks improve the midrange/torque on an untuned bike ?
Not enough to be worth the Money IMHO. The 1st thing to buy is a Power Commander and "Tune" your Bike. 2nd is BMC FIlters because the stock do let in a lot of Dirt. # 3 is an "Exhaust System" to make a huge increase in power (at least 6 and as much as 15 more HP over all). Then if you still want to spend more money, consider a set of Stacks and the SHort will "NOT" Improve Midrange.
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wheeliekev
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posted December 06, 2005 08:38 AM
thanks, my bike has a pc and end can, stock filter which I will change now, is the bmc better than the k&n ? I dont really need any additional top end I prefer torque for pulling fast wheelies am I going the right way, cant really afford a full system at the moment
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posted December 06, 2005 11:28 AM
BMC are the filter of choice for Ferrari who can have anything. In 1 word YES about 10 times better in Quality and fit. I do not know about the "New" K&N but for the Old style they are 10 times better. I would suggest Race Filters because using them for 2 years I have not seen any dirt in the Air Box like the Stock filters caused.
WHen you do go to a full system, make sure it is a 4-2-1 system with good midrange. The 2 that come to my mind are Ti-Force which have a long "2" Section and Step Hindle which I had and could tune the Bottom end for good Torque and HP
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wheeliekev
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posted December 07, 2005 05:26 AM
thanks for the info
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posted December 10, 2005 01:45 PM
I'd stay away from the TI force with the 2 long primairy collectors. I've seen two 2000 zx12r's on the dyno with them and both had a large sag or spike of power loss in the midrange. Most of it can be dialed out to just a flat spot, or small sag, but still not as good in the midrange as most other 4-2-1 pipes.
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posted December 11, 2005 03:55 PM
Get a brock davidson pipe and be done.
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posted December 15, 2005 09:45 AM
Edited By: wheeliekev on 15 Dec 2005 09:46
a bike shop over in the uk reckoned the stacks gave 10bhp, i told him to fook off after reading your replies lmao, he also said that 12r's were crap for wheelies, there one of the easiest bikes to wheelie next to a bandit, so I did the right thing and wheelied away from his shop lol he had the nerve to complain to one of the lads about me pulling a wheelie and said it was anti social lmao, obviously he cant do wheelies lol and could'nt handle a 12r
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posted December 15, 2005 11:22 AM
Just about everyone here has been through the "Stack" thing which was part of the "Restricted" Thing. SO save your money until you have nothing left to do then COnsider them.
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