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rawdog12


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posted March 14, 2002 11:25 AM        Edited By: rawdog12 on 15 Mar 2002 04:59
2002 clutch wear update zx-12

We opened my boys 02 yesterday to check out clutch after about 22 passes. Clutches were bone fucking dry, metals scorshed real bad 360 degrees around. doesnt seem as though they made any improvments what so ever. Bike still needs muzzy clutch basket and clutch pin modification. I was shocked to say the least. Drag racers... what stack height are u running on your 2000 and 2001's? The new clutch also has 4 of those little rings in it and 2 of the small fibers. Dont know whats up with that. Also last(outside0 fiber was already bottoming out in off set groove. Need some comments. Was very dissapointed at what I saw.
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kcadby


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posted March 14, 2002 01:04 PM        Edited By: kcadby on 14 Mar 2002 13:11
I'm pretty sure they use 4-spring washers so it will be easier to get into neutral and maybe? for less rattle also...

Sounds like you've got it figured out...get the basket and Muzzy kit...if your going to race it...

I haven't measured clutch packs because I go by what the pressure plate is doing (how close it is to bottoming out on the inner hub)...
It's EASY to see this through the oil-fill hole...so no
NEED to measure the pack...IMO...
I DO use the "thickest" of the used fibres when reinstalling used ones though...and keep saving/using them untill they are TOAST for money (no money) reasons...
I haven't toasted ANY fibres for quite a LONG time now though cool-down time between runs is paramount to this!!!

Put the pressure plate on with a couple of plates out and look/REMEMBER what it looks like...look at it from the angle you will be seeing...through the fill-hole...

Insatll the last fibre in the same slot as all the others...

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madmike


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posted March 14, 2002 01:10 PM        
LOL... Here we go again!

Oh man clutch's clutch's "I Love the Smell of Burnt Clutches in the Morning!!!" now that should be my quote... LOL.. oh also from what I have been told the small flat spring/washers. and fibers are to relieve the chatter from the clutch.
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rawdog12


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posted March 15, 2002 05:30 AM        
Thanks

Thanks for the feed back. I think I am running 11 metals and 10 fibers....? Are u guys replacing the small inner fiber in the clutch pack?
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entropy


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posted March 15, 2002 06:26 AM        
quote:
..."I Love the Smell of Burnt Clutches in the Morning!!!" now that should be my quote...


Mike: maybe you could lend that quote to me once in a while? LOL

rawdog,
you might want to rotate that outer fiber out of that "set groove", gives a bit more clutch life before the hat bottoms against the hub.
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kcadby


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posted March 15, 2002 07:08 AM        Edited By: kcadby on 15 Mar 2002 07:10
I already told him to put the last plate in the same groove!!!
Sure as hell didn't spell it very well though...DID I!?!?!?

Yes...I use all wide plates...
I'd wear this first set OUT first though...

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posted March 15, 2002 03:10 PM        
2002 same story different year

Raw, Im curious if they still set the clutches up with the 1.6mm steels. Certainly the 2.0 help out tremendously, but not as much as a 30 min cooldown between runs. So save your money for the hub, basket, and high cfm fan to put in front of the bike between runs...lol
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posted March 15, 2002 03:45 PM        
MORE OIL

Have your Pusher Shaft cross drilled by EDM .040 and have a nice spray of COOLING oil on the inside of your Hub.
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rawdog12


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posted March 18, 2002 07:54 AM        
Turboblew

Yes, they have still set bike up with the smaller steels. Replaced two smalls steels with 2 2mm steels. That brought the clutch height damn near flush with the basket. I'll have to say I was very dissapointed with the oil/none in clutch basket. I see no clutch mods what so ever on the 2002.
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posted March 18, 2002 09:58 AM        
Hmmmm....

You'd really think Kawasaki would have addressed this. Everybody knows that the stock clutches in the '00 & '01 models won't handle much abuse. I've got a Muzzy clutch kit in my bike and am pretty hard on it at times. It has given my no problems in over 5k miles. I want the billet basket too, but hopefully my stock basket will hang on another season.
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