aliveagain
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posted September 30, 2005 09:32 AM
hey blueford pffffffffflaaaaapt 
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princesskiwi
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posted September 30, 2005 04:27 PM
I am glad you are in my life RedElk - you give good hugs.
I believe in God, I see and feel Him in my life everyday.
My relationship with Him, is just that - mine.
Blueford, you have your own relationship with Him.
That is one of the coolest things about God, he is different things, to different people.
You can see only bad, or you can try harder and see good.
It's up to you - it's called 'FREE WILL'.
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blueford
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posted September 30, 2005 05:09 PM
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Blueford, you have your own relationship with Him.
That is one of the coolest things about God, he is different things, to different people.
You can see only bad, or you can try harder and see good.
It's up to you - it's called 'FREE WILL'.
Oh come on princess why must he be a he, isn't that sexist, couldn't the almighty be a she, women are more loving and giving than men, it would make more sense, if that's possible!
I have no relationship with God because there is no God, it is an invention of the human mind, simple as that!
Incredible hubris, to think we humans are so important that some super being created us and unlike every other creature, we don't die but live forever in some paradise.
Yeah right, that will happen, I am laughing my ass off!!!!!!! Get a grip 
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redelk
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posted September 30, 2005 05:36 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You must be right Jet. You've already proven "intelligent design" is a fallacy.
But that's okay, I can admit when I'm wrong, just as my continued belief in a Higher Power is... and your right. There is no God or faith in a surpreme being... as you know it.
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blueford
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posted October 01, 2005 04:56 AM
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You must be right Jet. You've already proven "intelligent design" is a fallacy.
But that's okay, I can admit when I'm wrong, just as my continued belief in a Higher Power is... and your right. There is no God or faith in a surpreme being... as you know it.
Well Redelk you must frequent that other place on occasion, I am not a Jet anymore but a more grounded slower tranquil Blueford!
I never said it was a fallacy, but religious philosophy, what I did say is Intelligent design, that "great theory" of supernatural intervention in the origin of life or of Homo sapiens species is not science because it is not testable by the methods of science.
Get it? Testable, so no you can't teach it in schools! You can append it to the front of the Bible but it has no business anywhere near that masterpiece of Charles Darwin.
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redelk
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posted October 01, 2005 05:31 AM
I wasn't claiming you SAID anything... just that you PROVED it. Get it? Obviously, you are as attentive to my comments as I am yours.
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princesskiwi
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posted October 01, 2005 09:27 PM
Blueford - you seem really angry ....
Why are people who go around claiming they don't believe in God so miserable?
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fropappy
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posted October 02, 2005 07:54 AM
Congrats Sherman.
I'm Kawachan's older brother. I thought I had a wake-up call when he went to Bosnia for 6 months. I cried like a baby when he left, but tried not to let anyone know. He came back and everything went back to normal.
When he was called up and had to go to Iraq, it started all over again. When I got the call that an RPG had blown up under his Hummer and he had been injured, it shook me to the core.
I'm sure he'll tell you that we've never been close, but I try to call him more often and visit him when he's home.
We don't always see eye to eye, but I've got his back.
He's the only brother I'll ever have.
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Outlaw1
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posted October 05, 2005 05:58 PM
 Edited By: Outlaw1 on 5 Oct 2005 19:03
Congrats Sherm and to your higher power for 9 years of clean sane living.
I just passed 6 months 9 days today Sherm and almost each and every day I have a new awareness. Its fantastic living sober. Its a gift from God And Bill W and Dr Bob and all those that have came before me like you Sherm, That I feel better than I have my whole life physcal and mentaly.
I believe today when I left this forum in Jan, It was to drink myself to death. After my wife left me last December I was ready to finnish my 27 years of hard drinking off with a bang. I never could get enough to drink. This was my new awareness today. Thank God for that moment of clarity March 26th 2005. I was done if not for that moment.
Today I have hope. Today I can smile. I can be a good human being. Today I can have relationships. Today I am happy and not miserable.
Sherm I have been working the program with the same vigor that I drank with. I am making amends Step 9. The Big Book says some will progress in recovery slowly and some fast. I guess the ZX-12 in me is working the program. I want it so badly. I was in the depths of hell on earth just a little more than 6 months ago. I hope I never sink that low again.
Last Thursday I gave a lead, It was the second time in two weeks that I had been asked. Quite possibly I gave it too soon. I know it did not harm me giving it.
If I could point out one thing in the Big Book that fueled my progress in my recovery today it was reading We Agnostics For after reading this chapter I got out of bed and prayed to my lord and savior to re-enter my life and to guide me in my recovery and life. And my recovery and life took off from that point on. Pink Cloud started then.
I also believe This is a program of action. I am being as active as possible in my recovery. Home group, chairing, making coffee, cleaning up, and going to 6-7 meetings a week and reading my Big Book and calling my sponsor daily. I just purchased the Joe and Charlie Big Book CD's. My AA libary collection is Two Big Books one hard back and a paper back to carry with me. 12 steps and 12 traditions, Daily Reflections, As Bill Sees It, Came to believe, Dr Bob and good ole timers, And now Joe and Charlie Big Book study 9 CD set.
My wife and I are going to counseling and things are looking good today. No expectations on what will happen. I have turned it over to God. It consumes no energy freting about it now.
Sherm keep it up, One day at a time, I love ya bro
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Ninjaman12R
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posted October 06, 2005 05:43 AM
Norm,
It's good to hear that you are getting some help. Keep up the good work...............
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted October 06, 2005 07:28 AM
one day at a time.....
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