sassyvanilla
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posted March 06, 2002 11:41 PM
The double sided soared.....
The prision system is, corporate America. So in order for the prisons to produce products to sell...they need workers....therefore, they need inmates to make those products. How do they get them, by any means neccessary.
Dont get me wrong....if you commite a crime, be prepared to due the time.
Lets face it, uneccesary, excessive Speed kills.
Whether you are on a bike or in a vehicle, you have the responsibility of more than just yourself.
And why did that girl; @ 4am on March 5/02 in Vancity, need to be driving over 120 km in a 50km zone????? With five of her friends in the car? Perhaps it was a blessing that she was the only one to die.?
That is my question. And if she was to live, should she face 10 years in prision?
  
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posted March 07, 2002 12:06 AM
Get a race bike and a dirt bike and a pacific coast for the highway!
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posted March 07, 2002 05:41 AM
Damn good trivia skills Rocket
Yep, I was there. Can't believe you actually know the skippers name!! I also had the privilege of being Shore Patrol many times. Once when I was a new squid at Great Lakes a riot broke out at the EM club. They called us all to headquarters and took away our batons and then sent us to break it up. Military Intelligence I guess.
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 12:15 PM
 Edited By: 22348bCVC on 7 Mar 2002 13:20
MY FUCKIN' TURN!!!!!
Hey Rocket..."A guy I used to work with at the IRS..."...a bunch of loser incompetent thugs if I ever saw one...talk about being 'brainwashed'?!?!?...and you want to talk fuckin' credibility?...and your 'secret squirrel' status that you once had so that you knew stuff that 'we may never know'? (oooooh, that's so SCAREY!!!)...are you still there?...if not, why aren't you there anymore?...not compatible?...not competent?...bosses hate you?...it's not your rules?...and you want to be the ruler of all rules?...but they won't let you?...and I could go on, but you get the idea...I DON'T KNOW YOU AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE JOB YOU HAD/HAVE...BUT I PAID MY TAXES BECAUSE ITS THE LAW AND I NEVER 'RAN' FROM IT...well, yeah, I thought about running once or twice, but I never will...a person could get in BIG trouble for THAT! kind of shit...so....explain to US why you did what you had to do and WHY the IRS does what it does to some people...HEY LET'S FUCKIN' REVOLT!!!...and I'm almost sure that there are at least a bunch of hard working and honest people working in the service...do ya' get it?, Rocketman?...hey, I'm just yankin' your rusty moped chain, ya'dick 
..and 12RPilot/Rocket...why did they take away your batons and tell you to get into the mix to break things up?...how did you feel when they took one piece of your equipment away?...weren't you trained in the use of that baton?...did you feel 100% confident about doing your job?...were you upset and frustrated that they took it away?...did they expect you guys to 'talk the riot down?'...did you feel as if the people who didn't do your job but tried to tell you how to do your job were total morons?...I know that it was a temp-type job, an assignment, but still you guys got a glimpse of what it feels like when you're tasked with the responsibilities of law and order...and its frustrations...was it difficult for you?...would you do it and could you do it again?...full time?...just curious...
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ezx11
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posted March 07, 2002 12:36 PM
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jamie lee curtis???? you coulda done better than that
A guy that I used to work with at the IRS just had a thing for her. You know how all guys have that one movie or TV (television, NOT transvestite) girl that they had a crush on, probably around puberty, but they are someone that always stays way in the back of your mind? I never really thought much about her until I met him. True lies changed my opinion. Anyway, who would you want me to insert instead of her?
Rocket
Hands down, Jennifer Lopez
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ROCKET J
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posted March 07, 2002 01:30 PM
Edited By: ROCKET J on 7 Mar 2002 13:34
Then you must be Moroco Mole. Or is it Roscoe P. Coltrane?
Gee CVC, go change your "Depend's", I think they are full. No I did not care much for the IRS. Thanks for asking, though.
Like I owe you this.
That was my third and final govjob. Initially, I was in the Navy, then a civilian employee (same basic job, no cool uniform), then the IRS.
The End
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 01:54 PM
Edited By: 22348bCVC on 8 Mar 2002 08:22
...see what I mean?
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Gee CVC, go change your "Depend's", I think they are full. No I did not care much for the IRS. Thanks for asking, though.
Like I owe you this.
That was my third and final govjob. Initially, I was in the Navy, then a civilian employee (same basic job, no cool uniform), then the IRS.
The End
Rocket
....it's HOT in the kitchen, huh?...nah Rocket, you don't owe me shit...I never asked for any shit from you, but you gave me and my chosen profession shit anyway...besides, this massive thread isn't/wasn't meant to be about you or me...it was about a city/county making it a felony to run/evade from the police...later, shithead!...I'm going for a ride!!!!
YOUR END
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ROCKET J
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posted March 07, 2002 02:38 PM
We will be like brothers, CVC
The Cities of
Carlsbad, Escondido and Oceanside
are welcoming men and women to fill current and future
vacancies for the position of
POLICE OFFICER RECRUIT
Applicants must:
· Be not less than 21 years old at time of appointment
· Have earned either a High School Diploma or GED
· Be A citizen of the United States
and
· Have no felony convictions
If you meet or exceed these specifications, we would like to hear from you.
The next written and physical agility exams for the above agencies will be held on:
Saturday, March 30, 2002
Registration begins at 7:30 am at the Clock Tower
At
Palomar College
1140 West Mission Road
San Marcos, Ca 92069
For more information on testing please call (760) 931-2220
Please bring picture identification with you to this exam
Map to college on reverse side
Put Us To The Test!
Off to Cali!!!!!
Rocket
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Y2KZX12R
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posted March 07, 2002 04:05 PM
Well if this means anything... my neighbor and buddy (Connecticut state trooper)has a gsxr 750 and he tells our group not to stick around if you think a cop might come after ya. So I usually dont stick around.
They dont chase bikes here in CT anyway. They know its hard to catch a bike. They also have been sued enough to know better.
On the other hand if a cop gets behind me without me knowing and theres a chance he got my plate I'm pulling right the hell over if he wants me to.
I guess its a situational thing.
Theres two options, get a ticket or dont get a ticket.
Ya gotta stay away from all other options.
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posted March 07, 2002 04:54 PM
Edited By: 12RPilot on 7 Mar 2002 20:17
Damn CVC...
That'a alot of questions!!! First of all, no I wasn't too well trained in the use of a baton. And they not only took away a piece of my equipment, except for an armband, that WAS my equipment. Was I confident? Well I was confident on the way to the scene because in high school I never lost a fight. I didn't leave the scene very confident. Of course, the real MP's bailed us out finally. The biggest problem was the entire incident was between Machinist's Mates and Gunner's Mates and I was just another Machinist's Mate once my arm band was torn off. Later I went to a school and got real training and a certificate. Bad guys really cringe at the sight of a certificate. OOOOOH! But I digress.
Let's see...would I do it again? I guess I would have to. Would I like it? Nope. Would I do your job? Not on your life!!! I almost feel guilty hiring new recruits because I don't think they realize what we are going to ask them to do. And I also feel guilty when there are only so many slots for advancement and too many candidates. Now I have to decide which one of these officers (many are friends) have to stay on the street and which get a cushier job.
Believe me, I am intimately involved in law enforcement. As an alderman, I write and pass laws. As chairman of the Public Safety Committee, I have to decide what equipment we can buy and how many officers we can hire. After the North Hollywood fiasco I wished I could double my budget and buy our officers tons of firepower and overwhelming numbers of back-up personnel. Hell, we even have a couple areas where handheld comms are almost non-existant. Small areas in nice neighborhoods but still, it's a scary thought.
I also go out on patrol quite often. Even took down a fleeing suspect (OK, was more like I was hanging on his arm). Now, I consider mayself a Libertarian at heart but when a scumbag spits on an officer I want to split a skull myself (which is prolly why the Navy took my baton).
To sum all this up, I'm kinda in between Joe Citizen and O'Malley the Cop. Society (or our communities) want certain living conditions and let me know it in no uncertain terms. They don't want Sammy Sportbike deciding that he can determine his own safe speed anywhere. That's because too many vehicle operators only THINK they know. And that's what it boils down to. Communities bitch, I pass a law, then I ask the P.D. to enforce it. Sure, Kieth Code can prolly be safe at 140 mph alot of the time. But how do I know the next little poser is safe?
I haven't been unlucky enough to run into very many assholes with a badge. Granted, I carry my D.L. with my alderman badge and that usually settles things down. But if there is a severe problem brewing out there with asshole cops, then by all means I'm going to make sure my representative (be it alderman, state rep, states attorney, whatever) is going to know about it. And make sure your friends do the same. And don't give up. Votes matter. Become an activist. If there is truly a big problem, elected officials need to hear about it. Lord knows I gotta hear about it!!!
(Disclaimer: Yes I speed all the time. Yes I know it's kinda hypocritical)
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 06:12 PM
Edited By: 22348bCVC on 7 Mar 2002 19:34
quote:
The Cities of
Carlsbad, Escondido and Oceanside
are welcoming men and women to fill current and future
vacancies for the position of
POLICE OFFICER RECRUIT
Applicants must:
· Be not less than 21 years old at time of appointment
· Have earned either a High School Diploma or GED
· Be A citizen of the United States
and
· Have no felony convictions
If you meet or exceed these specifications, we would like to hear from you.
The next written and physical agility exams for the above agencies will be held on:
Saturday, March 30, 2002
Registration begins at 7:30 am at the Clock Tower
At
Palomar College
1140 West Mission Road
San Marcos, Ca 92069
For more information on testing please call (760) 931-2220
Please bring picture identification with you to this exam
Map to college on reverse side
Put Us To The Test!
Off to Cali!!!!!
Rocket
...cool!!!...bring yer' suntan lotion...spf15 minimum...you'll really like our year-round twisted roads...hell, I might even ride with you one day...if you get stopped, just don't run...either way, I won't be able to bail you out bahahahahahaha!!!!...and it'll absolutely ruin your chances of being hired for awhile...some of our youngins' are very hungry for that chase, ya'know?...and we wouldn't want that to happen now, would we?...good luck if you're applying, but I don't think you will...or should...
"That was my third and final govjob."...go ride yer' bike, you secret squirrel you
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 06:31 PM
Thanks for the civilized response, 12RPilot, and for being honest about what you do with your 12R....too funny, man!
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ROCKET J
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posted March 07, 2002 07:42 PM
But I look good in uniform...
CVC, I was kind of counting on you for a reference, ya know.
How long do I have to stay in that pay grade 90, anyway?
Rocket
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 07:47 PM
...you asked for it, here it is...
...you stay at 'step 90' until you go for prison for manslaughter or murder because you chose to run from the police and killed some innocent with your speeding and out of control superbike when you were commanded/ordered to stop....Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
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posted March 07, 2002 07:59 PM
America the FREE, to do as your told. how many more laws do you figure it will take to make this place just right. and do you think a 3rd deg. felony will stop the runners? the whole thing stinks of cover our ass! its hard to chase a innocent person to thier death. if they are commiting a felony when there dyin!
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ROCKET J
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posted March 07, 2002 09:48 PM
All car trends come from california, don't they?
Hey when I move there, can I put one of those little televisions on my bike? All the cool cars here have them on their dashboards.
Rocket
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 10:41 PM
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America the FREE, to do as your told. how many more laws do you figure it will take to make this place just right. and do you think a 3rd deg. felony will stop the runners? the whole thing stinks of cover our ass! its hard to chase a innocent person to thier death. if they are commiting a felony when there dyin!
...we're more free than most, but we have rules that we must abide to live in our 'land of the free'...some old rules are out of step...some new rules are very much in step
...the roads and the people driving on it are not the same and it was 50-100 years ago...attitudes about self respect and respect for others have steadily gone down hill no matter what you want to attribute it to...it's more violent...the 'rules have changed', as they say on the Dodge commercials...and in a way, that's too bad...I traveled for the first time last year to Europe and spent four weeks there...yeah, they may have higher or no speed limits, but that's it...to speed or not to speed, to run or not to run...you don't know just how good we have it here in the U.S. until you travel to Europe or Asia...the punishment is more 'severe' in some places...maybe that's why they don't run as much....
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22348bCVC
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posted March 07, 2002 11:22 PM
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Hey when I move there, can I put one of those little televisions on my bike? All the cool cars here have them on their dashboards.
Rocket
...uh...NO!...
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posted March 09, 2002 11:02 PM
Born Free
Felony for running. That's all some hotshot rookie need's to run over me over with his cruiser. They shoot people for misdermeanor's in Cin, Ohio. Or have'nt you heard?
I have alway's ran, and i will continue to do so. If some rookie decide's to chase me and wad's his car into a family going to church, Shame on the rookie or veteran. He entered a no win race for him. By the way i thought the radio was your all's way of catching a person? Why do you need V-8's
But tell your buddy's officer. Do not chase Sportbike's. They will not catch them. and i have never been caught. I only consider myself an average rider.
Give a young man a badge, sidearm and a v-8 sedan and he think's he's god. Until he come's accross me.
Disclaimer" Ride at your own risk. But don't be a wuss.
By the way is it worth it for an officer to put his life or job on the line chasing me for speeding. Let's be real. I do own the fastest thing on the highway.
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posted March 09, 2002 11:28 PM
Edited By: 22348bCVC on 9 Mar 2002 23:50
Oh brother....
Zx12RNinja...this is a dead topic...pun intended...I think you'll find few here that share your views about running...I think we're mostly a 'mature audience' with families and know when and where to exploit our 12R's and our own potential and abilities...nothing wuss about that...but we're not just 'old' per say, but perhaps more mature when it really counts with some experience and wisdom to share about our very serious bikes and even how we've managed to survive all these riding years...to each his/her own...
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posted March 10, 2002 12:05 AM
I really try to avoid this, but...
... I've started to become weary of how this thread has "deviated" from it's original direction and has degenerated to just a (YAWN!) pissing contest. If it either doesn't change direction or just drop off the page, I might have to drag out my "pastor's robe" and make this thread "disappear".
I really don't want to go there.
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22348bCVC
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posted March 10, 2002 12:12 AM
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... I've started to become weary of how this thread has "deviated" from it's original direction and has degenerated to just a (YAWN!) pissing contest. If it either doesn't change direction or just drop off the page, I might have to drag out my "pastor's robe" and make this thread "disappear".
I really don't want to go there.
...you're right...I'm sorry, Pastor Elk...I'm off this thread...my apologies to everyone here... 
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posted March 10, 2002 07:15 AM
No one owes any apologies...
... since "open debate" and the chance to disagree, are cornerstones of this forum. Though I don't "run" this site, I have been given the honor to moderate this forum. I believe that with this honor, comes a responsibility. It's a responsibility to fish, frEEk and Mad Dog, but even more importantly... to it's to the members.
Being one who's "home" is LA Busa's 12R forum (I was the 102nd "original" member within the first 2 weeks of that site's existence), I came to believe in the importance of the forum's openess and the chance to share opinions of radically different viewpoints. Notice, I did not say "views"... I said "viewpoints". In other words, "views" with a "point".
I am NOT "repremanding" or "punishing" anyone. Actually, I encourage those that disagree to voice the opinions. On this thread, that has been acomplished. I felt that as the first page of this thread developed, this was going to be a real good thread. That's why I personally give this thread a FIVE STAR rating. It still is a good thread.
Still, it has come to this... the "views" have been shared and the "points" have been made. Seeing as this thread has run it's course, I have chosen to lock this thread. If the membership disagrees with this action, I AM MORE THEN WILLING to hear about it and I will heed it.
Again, I'm not saying that ANYONE has done ANYTHING "wrong" or "against the rules". It's just this thread has made it's point and so it should be.
Thank you,
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