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posted September 12, 2005 06:34 PM
Back to the subject of the post... sorry Tren.... didn't mean to jack your thread
WTF... why is the post locked on the 1400????
   
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posted September 12, 2005 06:38 PM
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Ok, WFT!!!....
Absolutely no reason to lock the thread on the 1400...
And yes, Fish was just saying that they never lock threads, except for libel or illegal
stuff...
hmmmmmmmmmm....
That tells me that THAT is the pic of the new 1400, and that he doesn't want the heat of Kawi
on him for posting it too soon... maybe that's it????
I think it's butt fucking ugly... 
Jere, Jere, Jere. Look beyond the last post.... ;-)
Ya fucking tool. LOL
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posted September 12, 2005 06:40 PM
I'll give ya a tool....
My SIZE 12 in your ass......
Bltiz... you're a SLOW motherfucker.... and your momma wears Army pants....
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posted September 12, 2005 06:43 PM
That ain't love. :-(
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posted September 12, 2005 06:49 PM
 Edited By: trenace on 12 Sep 2005 20:16
RETRACTION: Closer examination with photo-editing and a differing method (still tire-based) now eliminates confidence in previous wheelbase estimate, and further, contradicts it.
I am going to do it a third time, this time based on rim size, and get a better answer.
OK, working with the rims which is far better as rims should be constant, I get 2.7" greater wheelbase for the bike in the locked thread vs the ZX-12R. In other words, approximately 59.8" but this could easily be wrong by say half an inch.
The reason for the previous apparent contradiction was that if the rims are the same size, the front tires are NOT the same size between the two bikes. The bike in the locked thread has a slightly larger (greater diameter) front tire.
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posted September 12, 2005 06:52 PM
I could do that in Autocad if wheel base is that important....
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posted September 12, 2005 06:57 PM
What does it matter if it's a long tird or a short piece of poop? It still stinks and has no place at my house.
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posted September 12, 2005 06:59 PM
you yell 'em gunner...... 
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posted September 12, 2005 07:04 PM
You keep forgetting these guys (and gal) are Canadians... christ even their bacon is ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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posted September 12, 2005 07:32 PM
Edited By: trenace on 12 Sep 2005 21:22
Assuming this pic is permissible to be posted, here's an overlay, albeit a little confusing because overlays of this sort are always hard to read, of the bike in the locked thread vs the ZX-12R.
The scaling assumes that the front rims are the exact same size, so the 12R was made to be exactly that image size.
The resulting 12R front tire is smaller than the locked bike's front tire, hence the 12R's axle sits a little lower in the pic.
In the first pic, the 12R is the more ghostly of the bikes. In the second pic, the locked bike is. The red dot represents my best reading (hard to tell for sure) where the peg is on the locked bike.
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posted September 12, 2005 07:40 PM
gawdamn the 12R is a good lookin bike
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posted September 12, 2005 07:46 PM
Lookin better ALL the time 
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posted September 12, 2005 07:48 PM
Tren, what happened to the lower pic ?
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posted September 12, 2005 07:49 PM
Edited By: trenace on 12 Sep 2005 20:55
The lower pic was with axle-centered heights rather than ground-level centered. So that was confusing, since the top pic is ground-level centered.
I've redone it, now it is correct.
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posted September 12, 2005 07:58 PM
Yep!!!!!!!! It's a Boat
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posted September 12, 2005 08:18 PM
BTW, how do you get your computer to stop using old copies it has of pictures?
E.g., even though xs.to has the corrected version of that second pic, it shows up on my computer as the old version, because my computer thinks it's so damned smart, it already knows what that pic is supposed to look like and therefore doesn't actually go retrieve it.
Clearing the Tempory Internet files doesn't fix it either.
In fact, I have to assume that others who ever downloaded the first version, may be stuck with it for a long time rather than getting the updated version, unless I change the file name.
Actually I will go do that, change the name, but this is stupid... anyhow, how do I get my computer to stop using cached versions? Thanks!
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posted September 12, 2005 08:23 PM
Trenace - I don't know what pictures you're posting but they're not coming through on my end...
But, I have to say, around these guys I'm sure glad you didn't use the words "pooh poohed" and "rim size" in the same paragraph.
Carry on.
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posted September 12, 2005 08:29 PM
Edited By: trenace on 12 Sep 2005 21:31
Really? Is anyone else not seeing them? Xs.to has generally worked before as a host. ???
I'll see if I can find a backup host.
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matt sterbator
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posted September 12, 2005 08:32 PM
I can see them. Well, I could see them before, but I don't remember the red dot on the peg deal.
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posted September 12, 2005 08:38 PM
Edited By: trenace on 12 Sep 2005 22:24
The red dot shows where the peg is on the locked bike, or at least my estimate of it.
Aughtsix, I tried Image Station as it was recommended on this site's FAQ as a host.. but it is giving me some business of refusing to show the original pic, that only Premium Members can do that, and I know that when others have put their stuff up with Image Station there have often been problems, so I gave up.
Anyhow, my final conclusion is that the locked bike is clearly a ZZR-type bike, not a ZX-type. At least in terms of what it actually is, rather than having info myself on the name. The wheelbase, seating, and ZZR-1200-type bar position, as well as the overall styling cues all speak to that. This is a pretty big horse, I would say not designed to dice it with the 600's, but for very competent sport touring and everyday riding. Whether it will be King of the Strip is pure speculation, as the pic gives no clue to hp. The lightweight wheels, wave rotors, and sporty profile to the windscreen do suggest it's intended for high-end handling for that wheelbase category -- in other words it may be intended to well outhandle the present ZZR, but from the wheelbase one wouldn't expect it to match the ZX-12R in that regard unless it's far lighter than one would guess.
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posted September 12, 2005 08:43 PM
Okay, I'm getting the lower pic now...
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posted September 12, 2005 11:09 PM
Edited By: trenace on 13 Sep 2005 00:23
Crude, crude chop depicting 4 into 1.... the eye should skip over the affected rear wheel area... man, look how wide this fairing is. While it may well have the muscle for 180 or better, it's hard to believe (and perhaps should not be believed) that this was ever intended to win a top-speed war -- she's a big bitch (and I mean that in a good way):
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posted September 13, 2005 02:33 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 13 Sep 2005 04:02
You know what.. Im going to step out on a limb here and say that this is really fucking annoying.
We've told you what we "know" and what we "can say".. .
jesus h fuckin crist .... how many times have you been told to read between the lines.
We dont roll over here.
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posted September 13, 2005 02:35 AM
And I didnt even read this thread. so fuck you too.
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posted September 13, 2005 02:38 AM
tellin it like it is 
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