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posted August 27, 2005 07:42 PM
extended rev limit ECM
The extended rev limit for the ZX12R absolutely works.. I ordered from SuperBike Mike in Florida. He then sent it to some formula 1 guys in Italy. The ecm added 700 more rpm's to the ZX12R's 11625 rev limit. I took it to the dyno to test it and its for real. My bike spun the dyno to 200 mph and it shut the dyno down.. My bike was still accerlerating when it shut the dyno down... just for those of you who are wondering..
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ZXLNT
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posted August 28, 2005 02:40 AM
Dollars???
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deathpulse
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posted August 28, 2005 04:26 AM
Is this aftermarket? Any webpages for information? I've never heard of it....
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posted August 28, 2005 04:29 AM
SuperBike Mike is a retailer. He didnt send it to Italy . 
Sure your bike spun the dyno to 200mph....lol
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OutsiderZX12R
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posted August 28, 2005 07:22 AM
11,625 RPM limit??
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supra5677
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posted August 28, 2005 03:05 PM
got the dyno sheet right here next to me.. I dont have a scanner. But if you want a copy of it send me your address and I'll send it to you pronto.. I dont believe anything until I see it myself.. Other wise I wouldnt have posted it for you guys.
Superbike Mike is a retailer/engine builder in florida. He told me he sent the ecm to italy. The cost is 600.00 and yes it works..
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zxlnt
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posted August 28, 2005 03:12 PM
600 dollars? Thats about 3 times what others are doing them for...
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posted August 28, 2005 04:06 PM
send to DaveO in massachusetts($200); fuggetabout italy... .
and yes, it does work.
DaveO has the fastest NA bike and knows his chit.
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posted August 28, 2005 05:42 PM
Superbike Mike tells lots of stories.... and works at 300% profit margins....lol.
Sorry you got burned by the oldest shyster in South FL.... lil tip.. dont patronize him or Kevin Blais if you want your bike to really perform....
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Superbike Mike is a retailer/engine builder in florida. He told me he sent the ecm to italy. The cost is 600.00 and yes it works..
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posted August 28, 2005 09:18 PM
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send to DaveO in massachusetts($200); fuggetabout italy... ./quote]
Entropy, could you post the contact info? I need to do this. Thanks!
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posted August 28, 2005 10:06 PM
wait - entropy, does this "mod" change the map on the ecu, or just increase the revs? If it does change the map, do I need a power commander anymore. If it just increases the revs, will my power commander still work with it? Final question - extending the RPMs.. does this increase top speed to say 200 mph? THanks bro!
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posted August 28, 2005 10:14 PM
I'd also be interested in Entropy's answer -- my guess is that it would require remapping a Power Commander, since the way it works is by speeding the clock of the ECU. I could be wrong though.
Incidentally, the Dynojet ignition module is supposed to be coming out very shortly, and is also supposed to be able to extend redline. So I dunno if that might not be the better way to go... hard to figure.
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posted August 28, 2005 10:33 PM
From what I read on Dave O's mod it does affect the fueling, although very minorly (if thats a word). Also even if you do have extended RPM capability one needs the horsepower to push the bike thru the air at 200 mph...
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posted August 28, 2005 10:47 PM
Even if that were not the goal, there would be the benefits of being a little more in the heart of the powerband coming out of the 1-2 shift, and having a little overrev capability allowing to sometimes pick one gear lower for a given turn and not having to shift.
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posted August 28, 2005 11:09 PM
 Edited By: entropy on 29 Aug 2005 00:14
Here is the guy who does it:
Dave Owen - 508-802-0425
Tell Dave that "Karl sent ya", and maybe he'll give me a discount on my next ecu mod 
Dave hangs out on SuzukiHayabusa.org and is a wealth of info; no second-hand BS. He has the fastest NA bike (Busa at Maxton) and he does share info. I regard Dave's advice as gospel (only a couple other folks fit this category).
Dave's ecu mod increases the limiter by 5%, I believe by increasing clock speed? It surely does work, I have before(11.6) and after(12.1+/-) on JohnnyCheese's dyno. It didn't seem to affect my AF as near as I could tell. The ecu mod does not impact the map, and you still need the PC3r.
I had dave do mine for insurance 'cause my motor has a tight quench hight and doesn't much like going into the limiter. With a stroker 12, I am NOT intending to up my shift points, still have the shift light set at 11.2.
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posted August 28, 2005 11:19 PM
Thanks!! I'll give him a call!
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posted August 29, 2005 03:41 AM
I did this mod on my stock motored 2000. It added 640 more rpm. No change in A/F, no dip in power.
Tested on the same dyno... only 7 weeks apart.
It could add a few more hp if your cams were degreed to make power in that range.
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posted August 29, 2005 06:03 AM
I think this would be a good mod on a 1270/90 with cams and a Muzzy Pro Pipe..
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posted August 29, 2005 12:28 PM
Dynojet is suppose to come out with a rev extend module.. It will work only with the PCR USB model not the PC3R.. As far as 600 bucks I'm sure I over paid but Im happy and it works.. It took my 11600 rev limit to 12,300.
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posted August 29, 2005 02:28 PM
Edited By: T-Rex12R on 29 Aug 2005 15:32
Dav O. is the man I have had 3 zx12 ECUs done by him. I was on the dyno this weekend and my limiter was at 12.2....My shift point is 12,000 and it was the best 200 dollars I have spent. The only change that I saw was that it seems to advance timing 2 degrees.
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posted August 29, 2005 03:29 PM
Dave O. is the man, he did both of my ECU's as well. Will test at Maxton end of Sept.
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posted August 29, 2005 04:03 PM
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Will test at Maxton end of Sept.
Cool. Did you get your bike back from Lee's?
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posted August 29, 2005 05:46 PM
soo... does it increase hp or top speed?
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posted August 29, 2005 06:33 PM
it increases RPM range, nothing to do with HP, only will help top-end if you already have the HP to need it.
osti33- i'll be bringing the silver 1290 bike not the green machine
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posted August 29, 2005 07:09 PM
True rac4it ...It also matters where you have your motor degreed because if you have degreed and moved your HP to come in sooner than later this mod does you no good.
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