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BIKELAND > FORUMS > ZX12R ZONE.com > Thread: 1320cc & 1436cc NEW TOPIC NEW POLL POST REPLY
tapani


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posted February 23, 2002 11:33 AM        
1320cc & 1436cc

www.SuperBikeMike.com
has billet big blocks for ZX-12R.
Are they comparable to Muzzys blocks?
ho´s got one of those? How about the pricing?

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TurboBlew


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posted February 23, 2002 02:44 PM        
Muzzy has billet blocks too. I dont know if they are offered to the public though. SBM is expensive. Ive seen to many SBM failures to ever use their products.
Good luck!
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tapani


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posted February 24, 2002 01:55 AM        
TURBO

Tell me more about the SBM..
Why is it not good? or reliable?
Have you seen or heard any blown? ZX-12 kit?

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Tapani

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TurboBlew


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posted February 24, 2002 07:52 AM        
You may want to talk to member Iboomalot about the SBM kits. He actally owns one. Ive seen enough of his *other* work to know I dont want to deal with them. Shoot me an email if you want discuss it further.
On a performance note though, the SBM kit for the 12 made exactly 1hp less than a SBM 1500+cc Busa on the AMI dyno. I believe the 12 kit is 1436.
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Iboomalot


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posted January 03, 2003 09:26 AM        
been away from the board

friend of mine had a 1049cc ZX-9r that I just acquired(street bike) and has over 14,000 miles on it and NO problems.

My ZX-12r (more track bike) has been in the shop mainly due to head problems from a cam cog that wasn't lock tighted which was SBM's fault. I just added a wheelie bar, muzzy lockup clutch, and airshifter thats controlled via the dynamainder/shift light( i have an automatic ) can't wait to see how far my times drop with those mods.

SBM has VERY!!!! reliable blocks but I SUGGEST you do the install yourself.

So far great luck with the blocks themselves just not Mike.

The cranks are falicon so no issues there.

great product, poor customer service. install it locally and you should be fine.
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VincentHill


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posted January 03, 2003 09:46 AM        
Nice to hear from you "IBoomalot"!!
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kawachan


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posted January 03, 2003 10:34 AM        
Muzzy does sell the billet blocks to the public. Entropy has one..........and the billet crank too!!
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entropy


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posted January 03, 2003 01:06 PM        
Iboomalot:
my Muzzy 1427 hasn't been dyno tuned yet, so I don't know what to expect, Any numbers avail of yr SBM setup????
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Ra12r


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posted January 03, 2003 02:59 PM        
Iboomalot was 217hp in daytona a few years ago. He won the dyno shootout.
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entropy


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posted January 03, 2003 03:35 PM        
thx ra12r, that 217 was on pump gas???
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kcadby


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posted January 03, 2003 04:06 PM        Edited By: kcadby on 3 Jan 2003 16:08
ZRXDean has the SBM 1195 Billet Block on his ZRX...
NO problems...
I agree with the HIGH priced part...AND the...have someone you can TRUST install it statments though...Dean and I installed his BilletBlock, Carrillo Rods, 6-speed tranny

I also...HATE seeing his name machined into his parts...if I paid "his retail" price for parts...I would want MY NAME on the freekin parts...NOT his!!!

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Iboomalot


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posted January 03, 2003 10:18 PM        
dyno runs were on high octane 94 pump gas

can't use race gas in the street class at daytona
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zrxdean


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posted January 03, 2003 11:10 PM        
Yeee-ip, zero problems with Mike's steel-sleeved 1195 block. Along with 150+ motor runs, its had ~40 pounds of nitrous through it and no leaks... I thought I'd blown a head gasket once, but it turned out to be a cracked radiator. I of course agree it's better to buy his parts only, his labor is even more spendy- and that's saying something. If Muzzy's nikasil 1195 was available when I bought the SBM, I prolly would've gone that way, but I have no complaints at all.
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