VincentHill
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posted July 17, 2005 03:54 PM
 Edited By: VincentHill on 21 Jul 2005 10:52
OH Oh My ECU Really is BAD!!
Most of you know that I had some type of electrical problem with my fuel pump at Maxton. I finally bypassed the the ecu and ran a wire directly to the pump to make the bike run.
For the last 2 week ends I have been looking for the short. Today I finished every test possible and I do not like the results of the tests. I can jump the Pump Relay and mak the pump run also but no power to the relay from the ECU.
After checking all of the grounds to the ECU and ALL of the power sources and they ALL checked out correctly. The problem with this is each time they checked out the Book says "REPLACE THE ECU"
I do not want to have to replace the ECU! That cost waay too much money  Tomorrow I will have Randall let me know what the Damage is and then go out and Rob a Bank (or a rich Republican  ) At Mikey would say, "This SUCKS" Big time!
See last post!
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beansbaxter
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posted July 17, 2005 05:07 PM
My ECU was replaced under Kawi's warranty at 20,006 miles...is yours still under warranty?
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VincentHill
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posted July 17, 2005 05:48 PM
My Bike is a 2000 and I already got Kawasaki to replace the Stator Assembly and extend my warranty in April 2004 for several months so a "Year" Later even for me is "Pushing" it just a little 
Also only a 2000 fits, even a 2001 is different.
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zxlnt
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posted July 17, 2005 05:58 PM
Vince check with 5-0 I bet he has an 01 ECU Check ebay you should be able to snatch one up for around 150 bones or less...
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eastbaydave
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posted July 18, 2005 05:36 AM
saw a guy on Ebay had 2 for $85 bux each couple weeks ago...
do a search?
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VincentHill
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posted July 18, 2005 05:48 AM
Thanks Tony and Dave. I have had an 01 and they are really different and will not plug in! I will check e-bay !
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ridgeracer
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posted July 18, 2005 06:12 AM
How much do you want for your bad ECU?
I've been looking for one to take apart to see if they are re-programmable but didn't want to buy a new one just to possibly destroy it.
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VincentHill
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posted July 18, 2005 08:38 AM
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How much do you want for your bad ECU?
I've been looking for one to take apart to see if they are re-programmable but didn't want to buy a new one just to possibly destroy it.
If it turns out that mine is bad (As soon as I get one to check it) you can have it Cheap! Possibly no more than shipping and you let me know what you find!)
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zxlnt
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posted July 18, 2005 08:45 AM
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Thanks Tony and Dave. I have had an 01 and they are really different and will not plug in! I will check e-bay !
Doh I misread, you have an 00, yeah they are different. Still check with 5-0 I bet he has one someplace...
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VincentHill
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posted July 18, 2005 10:07 AM
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Thanks Tony and Dave. I have had an 01 and they are really different and will not plug in! I will check e-bay !
Doh I misread, you have an 00, yeah they are different. Still check with 5-0 I bet he has one someplace...
Who is "5-O" Sounds like the "Police"
Just looked at E-Bay and nothing. Called Randall and he knew the answer before I asked the question about $600 his price and he is looking at a few Salvage yards for me!!
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ridgeracer
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posted July 18, 2005 02:56 PM
Sounds like a deal to me.
I've posted about this several times over the years. There is a lot of evidence that the ECU is reprogrammable including several lines that run from the diagnostic plug to the ECU labled 'Memory Input'. But to hack it will require taking one apart.
Of course I really can't afford to blow $600 bucks on a hunch. An ECU like yours that is mostly functional except for some small failure that makes it unusable in the bike is a perfect candidate.
Of course I will share what I find with you and anyone else who wants to know...besides I'm in it for the glory, not money 
Besides there would be copyright issues if I charged for downloading the Kawasaki maps / software, modifying then and then uploading it back into the ECU . As an End User though the bike owner can do what ever .
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posted July 18, 2005 03:33 PM
We will all know in a few days. Since I think is is less likely to cause a problem to put a bad ECU on a good bike as opposed to putting a good ecu on a bad bike, I am sending my ECU to Dr. Dan and he will see if it works. Man 0 man do I have mixed enotions. On one side I hope that this is the problem because then I will know what happened. Then on the otherside I hope it is not because they are so expensive and then what made mine go bad? and "Will it happen again"??
The only thing wrong is the fact that my pump will not turn on for 3 seconds. I can get the pump to work several ways except just turning the switch!
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posted July 18, 2005 04:15 PM
Hey Vin...Im not being a wise guy, but why not buy a brand new 12 and just put a pipe on it...Then you wont have to do any work on it, as there will be no problems with it...
Dude, every week you have a new problem with your 2000...Just buy a new 12 and have fun riding!!!
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MadMike
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posted July 18, 2005 07:23 PM
I know 5-0 has one I just sold him one ECU and complete WH... for a 2000 vinny. wish I would have held on to it now for ya.... damn.... Vince shoot me your address so I can send that pipe out to ya!
MM...
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VincentHill
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posted July 19, 2005 04:02 AM
Edited By: VincentHill on 19 Jul 2005 05:04
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Hey Vin...Im not being a wise guy, but why not buy a brand new 12 and just put a pipe on it...Then you wont have to do any work on it, as there will be no problems with it...
Dude, every week you have a new problem with your 2000...Just buy a new 12 and have fun riding!!!
Serious answers are several. #1 I have a bike to "Ride" and this is for Racing Only. Saying that, #2 the 02 or later is not as Aerodynamic as the 00 or 01. #3, I have done a "LOT" Of Experiments on this bike and some worked and some did not and there is nothing having a new bike would cure.
Think about it, would a Brand New bike have not bent the rim hitting a hole at 190? Could I Spray a 150 SHot on a Brand New Bike and not blow us something? Understand that I am not just trying to go fast, but record setting fast using my ideas to do it. WHen you get to my age, you have come up with a lot of ideas over a life time and it you do not try them now, then you will never do it! It takes time and patience which I have both of. Randall and I have both been 199+ in the Standing Mile on this bike, I do not think a New ZX12 R even with a lot of work will go that fast and I am looking for 220 MPH. Last, I am doing everything with a Severely limited pocket Book which is possibly "MY" #1 problem. It cost me close to $60,000 to settle my Mom's estate and I have spent that much and more on my Medical Mal-Pratice law Suit. Now imagine a poor person spending that kind of money plus the normal Bills and race ALL IN THE LAST "2" Years :o
MM, Thanks as Always, But like I thought , I do have another Pipe
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MadMike
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posted July 19, 2005 06:47 AM
Sweet is that the New Brock-Hindle?
well send me what you have left of your old pipe, and I will put them together and sell it and split it with you? how does that sound?
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VincentHill
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posted July 21, 2005 09:54 AM
Thanks to Dan, he tried my ECU Several times and the Fuel Pump would not turn on! So it really is bad!! That is truly a case of Good News Bad News. Good that I now know what is wrong, Bad that it is the ECU!!
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