laidover
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posted February 19, 2002 07:42 PM
No Option At This Time
I have called all the major exhaust companies, muzzy, micron, ect.., and due to the fact that the '02 12r has a larger belly so as to incorporate the larger crank mass, all exausts for the '02 will have to be redesigned and tested.
Consequently I have no option but to go with a slip on (D&D)unless I want to go to Daytona in a stealth mode. I plan to remove the cat when the slip on arrives and will advise as to it's effectiveness !!! I would like to hear from anyone who has removed the cat or has a similar set.
  
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ROCKET J
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posted February 19, 2002 07:50 PM
Whaaa?
I'm so confused. Again.
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laidover
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posted February 19, 2002 08:03 PM
Allow me to clarify for you rocket. The crank on the new "02 is larger than the '00 and '01 and as a consequence a new header will have to be designed. Therefore, I will be unable to acquire a full system before BIKEWEEK March 2, 2002 as the manufacturers don't have any ready for distribution. Sorry for the confusion.
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krexken
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posted February 19, 2002 09:12 PM
I've read where removing the cat gains a couple of hp at redline, not necessarily at peak hp. I kinda regret removing the cat on mine in case the feds ever crack down on emission testing in my area which is likely to happen. Swiss cheesing the stock muffler gives it a pretty nice tone. I think I'd have to wait til a full system becomes available before I got a slip on.
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MadMike
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posted February 19, 2002 09:16 PM
Now I just read that Rickey Gadson said the Akro will fit the 2002's?? I think he would be the man to know!
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22348bCVC
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posted February 19, 2002 11:52 PM
hey...wanna see my crank?
...so they made the crank so big that it altered the engine block enough to make the 00'-01' exhaust systems null for installation?...wow...
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ZXtra
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posted February 20, 2002 01:09 AM
 Edited By: ZXtra on 20 Feb 2002 01:13
Hmmmm.....
It's true that the crank in the '02 is heavier and probably bigger in diameter, but it does't run that close to the oil pan. The pan wouldn't have to be lowered to clear a larger crank.
Let me venture a guess. The only thing that might have happened is they dropped the bottom of the pan to get the oil level away from the crank. This is the reason some people run their oil level low; to reduce parasitic horsepower losses from crankshaft windage picking up the oil. We know that Kawasaki does read these boards sometimes and this was a common thread when the 12 came out.
laidover...Save your money! A full exhaust is the only way to go. In the meantime, just mod your stock muffler for a couple extra HP and a little bit deeper sound. -ZXtra
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pat830
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posted February 20, 2002 06:12 AM
Never, ever modify your stock exhaust.
Save it to put back on at inspection time each year. We all know it is coming. The feds cannot leave us alone, there may be some fees they can squeeze out of us.
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12RPilot
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posted February 20, 2002 06:58 AM
I can easily see new clean air laws if the Dems get their way but we should not sit by while they grandfather our bikes into the mess. Just the same, I think I will hold on to my stock system.
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ROCKET J
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posted February 20, 2002 08:16 AM
Hmmm...
I can see a different pan. But a crank that necessitates a different block? Can you say VTX? Maybe the '02 holds more oil as well (like the '00 & '01 should), anybody know?
I agree about the slip on. Why spend your money twice? It will be worth the wait.
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laidover
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posted February 20, 2002 10:10 AM
I should have explained that I was told that the oil pan was larger not the block, however I was told that the pan size increase was due to the larger crank. I would, however, agree that the size increase would probably be more attributable to the need for increased oil. As for a full system, don't worry, I will have one as soon they are available and some performance stats posted. I have always run Muzzy full systems on my 9rs but would not rule out a akropovic. To late to save money, pipes on the way. Appreciate the advice.
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