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posted February 11, 2005 04:14 PM        Edited By: Widowmaker on 12 Feb 2005 07:56
Truck vs Bike (Viewer discretion advised)

The helmet is stuck to the truck.
You know how this happened he was behind a truck and went to pass and hit the other truck head on.



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posted February 11, 2005 04:22 PM        
It'll take more than a buffer to take that out ....
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posted February 11, 2005 04:50 PM        
That's why you should make sure your lid is Snell rated.
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posted February 11, 2005 05:23 PM        
Now that's Motrin pain.....
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posted February 11, 2005 05:31 PM        
......I got a headache this big (see arm movement)....and it has Excedrin written all over it"
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posted February 11, 2005 06:30 PM        Edited By: widowmaker on 11 Feb 2005 18:43
I really don't see much humor in this, I didn't post the photo of his dead wife laying on the other side of the bike, It's bad.

You know how this happened he was behind a truck and went to pass and hit the other truck head on.

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canadamaxxer


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posted February 12, 2005 07:35 AM        
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I really don't see much humor in this


Really, though what do you expect? There is no doubt that this is a horrific accident (I've seen these pics before), but ask yourself the reason why you posted these pics......Are they supposed to be educational? If so why was there no text to explain the circumstances behind the accident to make it truely educational?

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posted February 12, 2005 08:16 AM        Edited By: Widowmaker on 12 Feb 2005 08:23
Your right, I just posted them to look at but its self explantory the guy hit a truck head on and he was wearing a helmet .
Educational, I would say yes just by looking at the photos.

Humorous, Maby to some people but I can't see it.

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posted February 12, 2005 08:23 AM        Edited By: Just Joy on 12 Feb 2005 08:24
......you threw the picture out there to see what type of responses you would get.........don't be disappointed by the results of your little experiment....learn from them. In the mean time, lighten up!!
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posted February 12, 2005 08:25 AM        
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Your right, I just posted them to look at but its self explantory the guy hit a truck head on and he was wearing a helmet .
educational, I would say yes just by looking at the photos.


I have to agree about the lack of need for text , pictures like this do slap you in the face and remind us all to pay attention .
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posted February 12, 2005 09:01 AM        
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Your right, I just posted them to look at but its self explantory the guy hit a truck head on and he was wearing a helmet .
educational, I would say yes just by looking at the photos.


I have to agree about the lack of need for text , pictures like this do slap you in the face and remind us all to pay attention .


Yes, but context is essential......knowing that this guy pulled some kind of bonehead move and killed not only him but his passenger, really makes it hard to glean some kind of message or moral other than "don't do stupid shit". I would see this as far more of a tragedy (the innocent passenger is the truely sad part about this situation) if the truck swerved and hit them...... or something like that. It's hard to call something an accident when it happens through obvious negligence.....

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posted February 12, 2005 10:05 AM        
Yikes!
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posted February 12, 2005 10:46 AM        
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Your right, I just posted them to look at but its self explantory the guy hit a truck head on and he was wearing a helmet .
educational, I would say yes just by looking at the photos.


I have to agree about the lack of need for text , pictures like this do slap you in the face and remind us all to pay attention .


Yes, but context is essential......knowing that this guy pulled some kind of bonehead move and killed not only him but his passenger, really makes it hard to glean some kind of message or moral other than "don't do stupid shit". I would see this as far more of a tragedy (the innocent passenger is the truely sad part about this situation) if the truck swerved and hit them...... or something like that. It's hard to call something an accident when it happens through obvious negligence.....

True enough I suppose , goes along with the fundamental rules : stay in school , don't do drugs (while riding anyway) and don't do stupid shit like try to impress your passenger .
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posted February 14, 2005 07:54 AM        
Educational? Your kidding, right?

I came up on an accident where I guy had a SUV that turned left in front of him and hit it so hard that parts of his flesh landed on fellow riders. When officers tried to move the remains, they "sloshed" inside his FULL LEATHERS. I guess the lesson was not do 90 mph on a highway near an entrance to a "retirement community".

Another accident I came upon was in the middle of town. A man and his wife were minding thier own business when someone came speeding through traffic and hit their bike. The husband was seriously hurt and was screeming to know how his wife was and if she was being treated for his injuries. They didn't have the heart to tell him right then that a officer was trying to recover her helmet with her head still in it... about 50' from the rest of her body. I guess his lesson was that even when you "do it right"... shit happens, eh?

I could go on. I don't know if its karma or what, but I've seen far too many bike accidents. All of them were due to someone "not paying attention". Be it the rider or the be it the driver of the cage. It boils down to this, we take a level of risk everytime we hit the starter. We also take a leave of our common senses on an occasion. There is a price attached to both and some have paid it in spades. Whatever the circumstances, all the "graphic pictures" in the world will do little to change much of anything.

Some will view your pics as an example of someone who should not have attempted that pass while others would have just said that he should have wicked it up more. Geez, I wonder if full leathers would have help? Probably not. They didn't help the guy that hit the SUV. BTW - the guy that hit the SUV had a wife and a 3 month old baby. I'd guess the husband and wife had children as well. Judging from their age, maybe even grand children.

Having witness the blankets being laid on the pavement, I guess I should have just given up riding long ago or at least move onto more "mature riding" like getting a Goldwing.

I don't mean to imply that you post was pointless or unnecessary, but I'm also not surprised on the replies that it generated. With or without an explaination. It's not like their replies are based on ignorance or a wonton disregard for rider safety. More likely, they come from personal experiences of a fellow rider dying or having witnessed some of the same that I have.

No matter how graphic it is or isn't, all it is... is reality. Nothing more. Nothing less. We usually will still hit that starter button as soon as the funeral is over and our friend is buried. Lesson learned? Today is a nice day to go for a ride. I think our "friend" with his brains scattered across the pavement would agree.
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posted February 14, 2005 04:15 PM        
Even though I do not really care for the graphic pictures. I do believe that seeing them might save a life or two. When people see what could happen, they might think twice about doing the next dumb thing. Especially with newer riders that never had the misfortune of actually seeing in person a terrible motorcycle crash. I know the first poor biker I came across with a sheet covering him & the bike lying in the road looking like a pretzel sure did slow my ass down!
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posted February 15, 2005 08:56 AM        
Seeing those pictures makes me consider not riding anymore.

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posted February 15, 2005 10:21 AM        
Told Ya those Suzuki's are flimsy........................
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posted February 15, 2005 12:52 PM        Edited By: ddpete3 on 15 Feb 2005 12:52
don't kow which is worse...
minivan vs truck this morning in san diego


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posted February 15, 2005 07:13 PM        
The lessons of all of the above is that speed does not kill, but the sudden stop. One has to ride to avoid the sudden stops ( or in some cases I guess sudden exceleration too). Is there a value in the photos - if it makes you think of that situtation and remember it the next time it presents itself - IE - pulling out from behind a truck without due diligents - then these photos and their lives lost may not have been for not.
I am a firm believer that if one is involved in a "incident" or "accident" and it was "the other guy" or "someone else's fault" - it still was YOUR FAULT! May they RIP.


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