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22348bCVC


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posted February 07, 2002 11:13 PM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 7 Feb 2002 23:30
POSUERS!!!!

...hey, all kidding aside, just what is it that makes a 'poser' a 'poser'?...is it the type and style of machinery?...for instance...are street rod owners posers for wanting the same amount and type of technology on the street as do the race cars on the track?...are the owners of custom painted cars/trucks/boat/bikes/sandtoys posers because they want the same amount of flash and style as on the race machinery?...

...well here's something that might be hard for most of us to accept...I think more sportbike riders than not are out there being BIGGER posers than the HD or cruiser-type riders who are out there trying to look 'bad-ass' or are actual 'bad-asses'...hey it's EASY to look like an HD 'bad-ass'...just get tattooted, grow a beard (recommended for men only...if you're a bearded woman, you're totally 'bad-ass' in anyone's book no matter what you ride/drive), grow your hair into a pony tail (if you still can)...you may actually BE a social misfit to your friends, family, and acquaintances...or you may actually KNOW someone who knows someone who knows someone from the H.A.s (the original 'bad-asses')...and to top it off, its easy to ride 'slowly on an HD or cruiser-type bike and 'blend in', more or less, with the actual 'bad-asses'...


...now, on to sportbike posers...get ANY sportbike (bikes with race-replica paint jobs get bonus points here)...colorful leathers...a bitchin' racer-replica helmet...a few stickers on your rocket...spout a few street war-stories at the local sportbike hang-out about how you-almost-died-when-you-went-in-too-hot-at-such-and-such-corner-but-you-saved-it-thank-god-when-you-were-racing-a-(*insert the bike you despise for whatever reason here*) or a buddy...crash on the street for something stupid you did and live to tell about it...


...here's a thought...with the exception of a few riders (relative to the sheer number of street riders out there), I would hazard to guess that MOST OF US are posing in one way or another for whatever reason (fun, style, ego, mental health, etc.)...the 'few riders' of whom I'm talking about know exactly who they are and ride the streets (the racers, retired racers, and schooled riders)...they will never be called posers...they actually know how to use their bikes...they're actually there doing things with their or their sponsor's bikes that posers wished they could do...or they have been there and done that with sportbikes and what the bikes were designed to do in corners that few riders ever get to really experience...the rest of us WISH and just 'wanna-be' like them, but for whatever reason can't...and so...we pose...just like the HD and cruiser-types who want 'that look'...just like the street rodder with his supercharged big block who 'want that look'...because...(reality check)...IT'S JUST PLAIN 'OLE FUN!!!

...and so, who are we to judge another's personal tastes in bikes, cars, attire, and personal hygeine?...my guess is that the person who vehemently calls another biker a poser is probably more guilty of posing than the person he's/she's harping about...or that person is just not having fun with riding or their bike anymore...something I read somewhere, "When you point a finger at another person, there are three fingers pointed at you"....so why can't we/they just be an ENTHUSIAST about whatever we're/they're enthusiastic about?....seems to me that the ONLY bikers out there with no pretenses are the the GOLDWINGERS and the like, no?

Not quite RED in topic substance or text, but I wasn't really trying or applying myself...it's just something that made me go "hmmmmmmmmm......"
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ROCKET J


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posted February 07, 2002 11:31 PM        Edited By: ROCKET J on 7 Feb 2002 23:32
Hair Club, Baby

How come all the posers with pony tails are bald forward of that point?




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12RPilot


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posted February 08, 2002 06:37 AM        Edited By: 12RPilot on 8 Feb 2002 06:39
YOU'RE A POSER IF.....

1. You put number plates on your bike and you have never seen a race track.
2. You have sponsor stickers for way more products than you have sponsors.
3. You have rearsets and have never so much as worn off the chicken strips.
4. You wear pucks but have to take a grinder to them to look used.
5. You still have chicken strips on your OEM tires but replace them with race rubber.
6. You ride on the street with tape over all your lights.
7. You get all new calipers, lines, rotors and master cylinder when never having realized the full potential of the stock brakes.
I could go on and on. As far as being a bad ass wannabe, I have learned over the years in organized fights and warehouse wars, you are NEVER the baddest of the bad. On any given day you could lose (just ask the Rams). I think the same goes for racing on street or track.
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Ozzy


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posted February 08, 2002 07:00 AM        
Poser:to affect an attitude or character usually to deceive or impress . taken from the Merriam Webster website.

That definition helps me to answer the question: Are you a poser?

No- I make no attempt to deceive or impress anyone of being faster, better,smoother,quicker, than anyone else. Nor do I have flashy leathers,repli helmet, or any stickers (other than oem) on my bike.

With a crushed vertabrae in my lower back, the riding position of either a sport bike or sport tour bike is the most comfortable for me. A Gold Wing kills me in an hour, to much of a vertical postion, on a cruiser I last about 15 minutes.

Now if the question had been: Who is a fat slow old man, I would have known you were talking about me! Ozzy

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22348bCVC


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posted February 08, 2002 08:05 AM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 8 Feb 2002 08:06
...I know what you mean, Ozzy, the lean forward position of a sportbike is far more comfortable for me than a cruiser-type, standard, or possibly a tourer (although I've never been long distance on a pure tourer)...I guess I should've also added that just because a person rides a sportbike and wears the best protection equipment he/she can afford doesn't make the person a poser...hell, a person would be very stupid to explore the true potential of the bike or even test one's maximum ability without proper protection...and that's the thing...a newbie shows up at the local hang-out all shiny and protected...then the whispers begin..."poser...look guys...a poser"....it's too funny, these 'finger pointers' (who were once, I'm sure, in that newbie's boots, yes?), and you KNOW that's how it's played out there....now if you take that same scenerio and add a track-day session to it, get the leathers, helmet, pucks, and possibly the bike and tires all scuffed up, then and only then would you be worthy to be seen in your handsome Vanson Tushitani-Z repli-transformer-look suit out there cuz' "you've been there, man!"...that's analogous(sp) to saying that unless you've been in a brawl at a biker bar, had your front teeth knocked out, and your 'bros' fighting with you, you're just a poser on that Harley Davidson FX-LMNOP-Jerry-Springer-Softtail...this is too damn funny to me...and we wince at the 'truth' of it, no?...this is motorcycle rider anthropology...as for enthusiasts, I've never really heard this kind of talk amongst the street rodders of American iron (where posing possibly got it's start but has somehow evolved into mutual repsect for one's style, craftsmanship, and abilities)...it's mostly just the sportbike and HD-type motorcylists, and the kids of Asian import cars' fast and furious...okay, kids...anthropology class is over now...I'm going for a long-ass ride today with some other leather-cladded 12R ENTHUSIASTS (thank God you say)...hee hee hee...enjoy the ride...
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frEEk


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posted February 09, 2002 12:32 AM        
well put nano
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TripodMeat


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posted February 09, 2002 10:16 AM        
I dont really give a F*ck what the local
fast-food/donut shop/whatever crowd thinks.

I do what I WANT to do with my 12R ( Mods & apparel )
NOT what some sorry little
Linkin Park reject lookin' pussies THINK I should be doing.. These bitches dont sign my paycheck, and
I really dont think they ever will!!!!

There I feel better.....

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tactical2


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posted February 10, 2002 04:42 PM        
I do what I WANT to do with my 12R ......

Well said Tripod.....


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