posted December 06, 2004 12:15 PM
Anybody here a tire engineer? I got a few questions that only a true tire expert (engineer, tread & compound designer) could really answer with authority. Kinda hoping we have someone here, maybe a lurker, who's in that field. If there is, please email me (use the email button below). thanks!
posted December 06, 2004 02:00 PM
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posted December 07, 2004 02:17 AM
I worked for Goodyear for 15 years but it wasn't a motorcycle tire plant and I wasn't a design engineer. It was pretty cool watching new tires get developed and tested though. Maybe someone here stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night?
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posted December 07, 2004 11:15 AM
not you homie...I meant the whole situation of whatshisnuts losing his job for tellin some people how to exploit a warranty issue for a tire.
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posted December 07, 2004 11:30 AM
That was Jedi at LAB. It was about the Michelin warranty on the Power Sport tires.
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if it helps any, what i'm basically looking for is a good candidate for a snow tire. there is a company that makes them, but not in any size that could be used for the street. needs to be a compound that works well in cold weather, and an appropriate tread design (from what little i'v read, you basically need a fairly agressive knobbie, unlike cars where snow tires are not that agressive). want info about syping [sp?] tires myself, even cutting the tread pattern myself. but no idea where to get a tire that would be a good starting point. i can use "common sense" to try something that i think will work, but i simply don't trust that common sense is enough. takes someone with experience and real working knowledge to deal with all the unknowns. so if anyone knows someone who is in that field, it would be very much appreciated. need to get this happening asap too.
and before anyone else says it, spikes/screws like the ice racers use is NOT a workable option as i need to be able to ride on clear pavement too.
posted December 07, 2004 03:24 PM
I know a guy who used to be the line foreman at Dunlop.
I'll get in touch with him and see if he knows anyone you could contact.
posted December 07, 2004 04:34 PM
jon, i actaully read a review (in german i think) that rated the S12s pretty good for snow & ice. unfortunately it's not available in any reasonable sizes. i need a 150R17 for the back.
bagster, thanks. that sounds as good a lead as i've had yet.
It looks like their new website is down, but this version has been up for years. The close up shots of their tires were wild, they had several hundred 1/2 inch spikes in each tire. If that aint enough traction, get a snowmobile.
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posted December 09, 2004 06:27 AM
I got ahold of my buddy.
He gave me a phone number of someone who can hook me up with a real smart japanese tire engineer at dunlop who works both the car and bike tires areas.
I got his voicemail and hopefully he will call me back. so i can hook him up with your "frEEky "email?
posted December 09, 2004 01:55 PM
I'll bet you $$ that a pair of the "snow tires" alone will cost as much as a beater car and 3 months bare bones insurance to get you through the winter.
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posted December 09, 2004 05:42 PM
Edited By: frEEk on 9 Dec 2004 17:43
given that i have a truck i could use free over the winter (cept for insurance), i guarantee it.
posted December 09, 2004 08:31 PM
take a pair of those back assed tires you own, get a screwgun and some tech screws and have at er... then buy an innertube or fill both suckers with a liter of slime each... shit.. you dont need an engineer fer this one..
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posted December 09, 2004 11:33 PM
fish, i've read that advise a number of times already, but it's no good. spiked/screwed tires are useless on pavement. they're used for ice, snow, and offroad only. unfortuantely i have to be able to deal with compact snow/ice, deep snow, slush, and dry pavement, and i ahve to be able to do 80kph safely on the tires. the latter 2 requirements arent met by spiked tires. i've read that screwed tires on pavement are about as bad as street tires on snow. i'v tried that and it's not something i want to repeat. i'll prolly end up with car style studs on motocross tires. not an ideal solution, but probably the best option available.
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posted December 10, 2004 03:13 AM
I think it's safe to say that you'll prolly end up on your head, but hey, to each his own!
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