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posted January 27, 2002 03:20 PM
Edited By: swft on 4 Feb 2002 02:49
Carbon Fiber - Weight Watcher's Plan Ok, so we all know that a stock ZX12R isn't exactly anorexic. Some might call it svelte.
I don't have the weight comparisons for each piece, so I'll just list them and the results.
Stock ZX12R
Rear plastic fender
Plastic chainguard
Ram Air covers
Snorkle
Fuse cover
Front fender
Gas Tank
Stock wheels
Stock mirrors
Stock windshield
Stock exhaust
Full tank:
Front: 277 lbs
Rear: 278 lbs
555 lbs
- 5 gals 32 lbs
Empty tank: 523 lbs
Weight Watcher's ZX12R
Fender: FSD Undertail
Chainguard: Hans CF Hugger
Side Covers: Hans CF
Snorkle: Hans CF
Fuse cover: Hans CF
Fender: LP CF
Gas Tank: Rico CF (+1 Gal)
Wheels: Marchesini
Mirrors: ZX9 Mirrors
Windshield: Zero Gravity DB
Exhaust: Muzzy Titanium
Doing the math, that's 55 lbs lighter when both bikes are pulling up to the pump for a refill, or 48 lbs lighter when topped off with gas. And the Weight Watcher's ZX12R carries a gallon more of gas. ____________
82 Gpz750, 84 Ninja 900, 2000 ZX12R (Muzzy Big Bore Kit), *another* 2000 ZX12R (Muzzy custom stroke crank 1341cc motor), 2004 ZZR1200, 2005 ZX10R, 2007 ZX14, 2008 Concours 14, 2014 Versys 650, 2014 Yamaha WR450F, 2015 Ninja H2
Who will post a lousy pic of a "carbon 12". Want stats?
full carbon body work
single front light
Led rear lights
Dymag Carbon wheels
PFM rotors/calipers
Radial front master
Mikuni tripple and rearsets
Muzzy damper
Carbon tank
Big motor
Ohlins rear
LE massaged front
carbon intake
Muzzy ti
I think I got it all.
posted January 28, 2002 06:16 AM
Edited By: EastBayDave on 28 Jan 2002 06:17
quote:swft,
Very fun!
Who will post a lousy pic of a "carbon 12". Want stats?
full carbon body work
single front light
Led rear lights
Dymag Carbon wheels
PFM rotors/calipers
Radial front master
Mikuni tripple and rearsets
Muzzy damper
Carbon tank
Big motor
Ohlins rear
LE massaged front Can you elaborate on "massaged" ???
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00' ZX12R sold
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posted January 28, 2002 07:58 AM
I think SLIM FAST is cheaper... I weigh 195lbs. If I lost 50lbs. that would give me 2 tenths for DragRacing!!! Alot cheaper than CarbonFiber Parts, DyMag Rims, lighter Rotors, Airtech body work!!!
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posted January 28, 2002 07:10 PM
Everybody has their opinion... But I think Jim is truly great at what he does, and all his employees are also good. Highly recommended.
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posted January 28, 2002 08:15 PM
It's great to hear about different customer experiences, when they can recommend a company to other riders. I know I got a great product from Race Tech, but some other riders have had bad experiences with their shipping/handling department.
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82 Gpz750, 84 Ninja 900, 2000 ZX12R (Muzzy Big Bore Kit), *another* 2000 ZX12R (Muzzy custom stroke crank 1341cc motor), 2004 ZZR1200, 2005 ZX10R, 2007 ZX14, 2008 Concours 14, 2014 Versys 650, 2014 Yamaha WR450F, 2015 Ninja H2
posted January 30, 2002 12:24 PM
Weight Just wondering why Honda, Suzuki (1000 cubics)
are about 100 lbs lighter than our bestloved ZX.-12
Hmm...
is it the motor? can't be only it... it's only 200 cubics bigger!
how about the frame? or rear frame?
rims?
forks?
exhaust?
Swing arm?
Fairings?
Fenders?
Breaks?
Electrical systems?
Cooling system?
wirings?
Is it the biggest and heaviest battery in the world ?
Do you find some other parts ....
Tell me what really makes the weight difference?
Yes,
Swft and White Lightening... Carbon CF is okey,
but it would be interesting to compare those original
parts of the moped, why and what really makes
our ZX hevier...
So
have to start to take it apart,
measure everything and then compare, compare....
But still the question remains... Why is it too much heavier !!! ?
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posted February 01, 2002 07:57 AM
The fix was to rethread the tank to accept a proper metric fitting. The two problems that I observed with the tank are as follows:
1. Return line fitting: The fitting that was removed from the stock tank did not fit/seal properly in the carbon fiber tank copper receiver. Mike Velasco tapped the copper receiver out to fit a new return line fitting.
2. The compression nuts in each side of the tank (where the tank cover is fastened to the tank, using the two large allen bolts) are too deep, hence not allowing the allen bolts to be used. The solution is to either use longer bolts or cut up your tank cover - NOT!
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posted February 02, 2002 07:08 PM
So what do you guys think? Should I get the Carbon Fiber tank from Safetech, despite all the initial probs getting the tank, and then the fitment/fitting issues?
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posted February 02, 2002 07:38 PM
Edited By: EastBayDave on 2 Feb 2002 19:41
Glad to hear you got the other issues straightened out. I take it you guys fixed it yourselves. So far Safetech's business practices seem iffy at best; that's why I didn't buy anything from him. My phone calls & e-mails seemed to indicate someone who wanted to do right, but perhaps did not have the resources? I chose not to take the chance...
However, Safetech appears to be the only game in town right now excepting Sebimoto. I know they make a carbon cover, along w/the rest of the bodywork, but it's expensive & no gas tank. http://www.sebimoto.com Yoyodyne is the US distributor...
I'd try to get in touch in Rico, see if he can fix the existing problems (including communications), & then you have to make a decision. He must have the mold made up now, so perhaps the next one will be quicker/easier...?
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posted February 02, 2002 07:44 PM
and the grand total is!!???? Swft,
What is the total price of your 12R weight loss plan???
( If not the exact $$$, a guesstimate would work... )
The big ticket items would be the exhaust , and the wheels both in weight AND price I assume.
This may go against everything that this board is about, but my box stock '01 12R has yet to get ABOVE 7500rpm,
and I find the power F*cking incredible, ( I am at 1400 miles, and I am hesitant about opening it up YET, break-in issues and all..)
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