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extremelean


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posted January 12, 2002 07:02 PM        
WHAT KIND OF NEW MACHINES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE KAWASAKI BUILD?

give your thoughts & ideas

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Harpoon


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posted January 12, 2002 07:06 PM        
WHAT KIND OF NEW MACHINES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE KAWASAKI BUILD?

A ZX12RR. 100lbs lighter with the fit and finish of a Honda. Did I say "Honda"? Sorry.
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zx1012r


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posted January 12, 2002 07:08 PM        
Can you say ZX10R that would eat the GSXR1000, R1, 954 group? Or are you fishing with this knowledge already in brain but won't let the proverbial cat out of the bag?
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ZX12Girl


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posted January 12, 2002 07:14 PM        
a ZX14R

a ZX14R....1400cc of haul ass power. The bike would look alot like the 2002 ZX12R (I am Partial) but have about 230hp to the rear wheel!!! Would come with a 4" longer wheelbase (than the ZX12R) and an Akropovic pipe from the factory!!

Oh yeah!!

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fish_antlers


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posted January 12, 2002 07:37 PM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 12 Jan 2002 19:42
ZX10 or 12 with fit and finish of a YAMAHA or an Aprillia (not a crappy Honda! ) .... max 400lbs .... less HP in return for more torque...

How 'bout a sport twin? Take on the 996 perhaps?

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ZXtra


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posted January 12, 2002 08:35 PM        
Ya, what Harpoon said.

A dedicated, corner carving, big block, lightweight, R1 and GSXR1000 killer. -ZXtra
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Dino


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posted January 12, 2002 08:38 PM        
A zx10r that could stay w/ the competition AND comfy enough to ride for 8 hrs. a day!!
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DaveInDaytona


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posted January 12, 2002 10:33 PM        
Yup, what Harpoon said, a


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OutsiderZX12R


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posted January 12, 2002 10:37 PM        
I would like to see a ZRX-1200 with a NON-detuned ZX-12R engine and weighing at about 400 lbs. I would have to buy one. Just my .02.
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extremelean


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posted January 12, 2002 10:46 PM        
cool license plate Dave

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Ninjaman12R


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posted January 12, 2002 10:47 PM        
The verdict is in................

In with Dave and Harpoon on this one. Nuff said.
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redelk


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posted January 12, 2002 11:53 PM        Edited By: redelk on 13 Jan 2002 10:04
Something KHI should have done 2 years ago!

Engine
988cc, fuel injected
Dry Weight
365 lbs.
Wheelbase
55.3"
Rake/Trail
23.5°/3.75"
RWHP/Torque
155 HP/81 ft/lbs.
Front Suspension
Gold Titanium Nitride coated
Adjustable steering damper (How come almost all 'zuks have a damper and not a single Kawi does?)
Rear Suspension
Shock with remote reservoir
Reinforced swingarm
Front Brakes
320mm rotors
6 piston Nissan calipers
Remote fluid reservoir
2 S/S braided lines directly attached to the master cylinder (Hey, if H-D can put braided lines on a V-Rod, ya'll can do it too!)
Insterments
Large analog tachometer
Digital speedometer, fuel and temperature gauges
FI, oil and low fuel warning lights
Adjustable shift light
Multi-function display with odometer, tripometer, clock, average speed and time traveled (if Sigma can make this for a bicycle and it's MSRP is less then $30, ya'll can handle this)
A gear indicator would be nice
MSRP
$10,699
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tapani


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posted January 13, 2002 02:42 AM        
In the near future

Carbon/Kevlar Frame, Rims, Tank, Swingarm, and... Forks and perhaps in the future also Carbonbased Drive chain, Brakes and Disks...
How about that?

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22348bCVC


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posted January 13, 2002 04:01 AM        
...what Red said...plus...full Ti under-tail-exhaust,LED tail-lights w/turn-sigs built-in,front turn-sigs within the head-light assembly, and...uh...built-in GPS..that'd be worth the $200 more they could add on...oh...and body-colored "covers" to cap over the exposed holes for those who remove the mirrors for track-days...and at least 165RWHP...
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Kawdawg


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posted January 13, 2002 06:22 AM        
How about a half decent sport quad for racing. 2 stroke or 4 stroke doesn't really matter as long as it can hold it's own run against Honda ad Yamaha. The Mojave SUCKS Big Time. All of thier quads and dirtbikes suck. I hate to say this but it's true. I only ride Honda Quads and dirtbikes. But I love Kaw streetbikes. I LOVE my ZX 12
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posted January 13, 2002 06:42 AM        
I think that universially, everyone would like to see a bike that would be competitive with a GSXR1000, in both handling and weight.
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CrotchRocket


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posted January 13, 2002 07:17 AM        Edited By: CrotchRocket on 13 Jan 2002 07:22
ZX-12RR!!!

Better forks and shock...

Increase Bore and Stroke to 175RWHP & 105lbs. of Torque...

More oil pressure and make sure there are no more bearing lubrication problems...

Frame,Forks,Swingarm,Engine covers,Rear Sprocket,Rotors,Calipers all powder coated Black...

Digital Speedometer, oil pressure guage, gear indicator, SHIFT LIGHT...

LED tail light, flush mounted directionals...
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zx12richard


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posted January 13, 2002 07:44 AM        
230 to 240 at rear wheel... Something that just says fastest ever...
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MadMike


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posted January 13, 2002 07:53 AM        
How about a FREE bike for everyone who gave them all this great input!!! yea yea!!
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Turbo810


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posted January 13, 2002 08:27 AM        
I think Redelk just disgned the perfect bike. I miss my ZX9R to no end. Kawaski needs to build a bike that can compete with the GSX-R1000 or I will be going the Susuki way. I haven't owned anything but Kawasaki's since 87 but I am tired of having the second best bike on the market.

Right now if I was to buy a ZX9 I would be near the bottom of the liter ladder. If you can't tell I am very disapointed with my ZX12 and can't wait to get rid of it. This thing is to damn heavy and a friend of mine keeps up with me on his dead stock GSX-R1000 to 170 M.P.H.

I don't know just my thoughts but I can't have any fun on this bike until 150M.P.H.
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mattie_k


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posted January 13, 2002 08:45 PM        
I would be happy if they got off their asses and finally updated the ZX-7R to the class leader that it should be! Oh yeah, and a ZX-10R in the mix would be cool too!!
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Ozzy


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posted January 14, 2002 04:51 AM        
quote:

Engine
988cc, fuel injected
Dry Weight
365 lbs.
Wheelbase
55.3"
Rake/Trail
23.5°/3.75"
RWHP/Torque
155 HP/81 ft/lbs.
Front Suspension
Gold Titanium Nitride coated
Adjustable steering damper (How come almost all 'zuks have a damper and not a single Kawi does?)
Rear Suspension
Shock with remote reservoir
Reinforced swingarm
Front Brakes
320mm rotors
6 piston Nissan calipers
Remote fluid reservoir
2 S/S braided lines directly attached to the master cylinder (Hey, if H-D can put braided lines on a V-Rod, ya'll can do it too!)
Insterments
Large analog tachometer
Digital speedometer, fuel and temperature gauges
FI, oil and low fuel warning lights
Adjustable shift light
Multi-function display with odometer, tripometer, clock, average speed and time traveled (if Sigma can make this for a bicycle and it's MSRP is less then $30, ya'll can handle this)
A gear indicator would be nice
MSRP
$10,699




Engine
988cc, fuel injected V-Twin 130+ RWHP would be my choice. Ozzy.

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Phil


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posted January 14, 2002 04:00 PM        
What Kawdawg said, hell Kawi has been racing pro 250 two stroke quads for awhile now, put em on the show room floor.
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posted January 14, 2002 07:07 PM        
ZXR-1000

80x53 or 78x54 I4
13.6 to 1, two ring pistons
semi dry sump
"good" knife rods
variable cam timing
CV fuel injection
knock sensor
o2 sensor
closed loop
planitary 4+2 tranny
36mm (short) forks
decent ride height adj shock
proper spring rates
Monocoque frame
cast mag monocoque swingarm
stacked duel belt final drive
16"x8" aluminum forged wheels
240 CS tire
single seat high tail
optional tailsection for two seats
color LCD inst panel
duel underseat exhaust cans with pre catalyst
adjustable rearsets
16,400 redline
185 RWHP 80 FPT

$14,500

Hey were dreaming here right?












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MO


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posted January 14, 2002 09:27 PM        
kawasakis answer to the super charged proto type suzi. fuck fit & finish as long as it stomps every thing else!
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