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beansbaxter


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posted April 21, 2004 07:51 AM        
What about a manual fan switch and aluminum fans?

Anyone ever thought about putting a manual switch on the 12 to turn the fan on and off, but also wont interfer with the bike's control of it?

It seems the engine waits until it is too hot before the fans kick on, and it would be nice (especially in stop and go traffic) to just kick them on early so it doesnt get too hot...

Also do the aluminum fans really make that much of a difference? Any cons to putting them on? The only negative I can think of is the added noise, but I dont really care about that.

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posted April 21, 2004 08:47 AM        
people do it all the time

Why would aluminum fans be louder unless installed incorrectly?
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vozizm


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posted April 21, 2004 09:52 AM        
i have alum fans... no more noise than normal...


but i do need a switch!!


anybody got a how to on it?!

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posted April 21, 2004 09:59 AM        
ok I refuse to answer this based on the grounds that I've posted the instructions photos and links on this subject about a bazillion times trying searching the boards for the topic it's been hashed at least a dozen times
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posted April 21, 2004 10:53 AM        
'zactly!
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zx12richard


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posted April 21, 2004 11:00 AM        
A switch won't interfere with bikes ability to turn on and off fan...

Easiest mod in world....

Copper color Sensor on the sifter side of bike on radiator..

It has two wires coming out of it... Splice into each wire

One wire from copper Sensor to one side of toggle switch.. The other wire to other side of toggle switch... Done...

My sensor went bad within 1000 miles of getting bike... I wired manual switch on then... Just hit traffic flip it on...

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ninja12


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posted April 21, 2004 11:11 AM        
seeing as to how i'm guilty of asking old question again,
I'll take this one.

This muzzy fan CAN be a little louder depending on wheather it
was bent during shipping or installation. Does not seem to make a
difference in cooling but some are louder than other, my .02.

The override is simply shorting the two wires from the temp sensor on the
radiator together .
1. Use a switch and tap INTO each wire of the sensor. (left side near valve cover).
if you tap in on the the raditor side of the plug main harness untouched!
2. when the switch is ON it completes the fan circuit. Since you don't cut anything when the switch is off the fan operates as normal.


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ninja12


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posted April 21, 2004 11:12 AM        
opps , he bet me to it.
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beansbaxter


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posted April 21, 2004 11:25 AM        
Ok so if the Muzzy fan doesnt actually cool any better, then aside from possible melting of the stock plastic fans, is there any reason to have them installed?

Cause at nearly 18k miles, my stock plastic fans arent anything near melting.

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dougmeyer


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posted April 22, 2004 06:49 AM        
The fan does move more air. It can change the rate of cooling, that is the amount of time needed for a given temperature drop. But if you have a cooling "problem" it won't cure it.
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posted April 22, 2004 07:12 AM        
I think it's just as important to note that when you change the exhaust system to aftermarket, the walls of the header pipes are typically thinner, and shed heat much faster than stock. I've pulled stock fans out with melted blades due to header heat with aftermarket systems.
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ninja12


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posted April 22, 2004 10:06 AM        
"Does not seem to make a
difference in cooling but some are louder than other, my .02."

I meant the ones that make noise cools just as well as the quieter ones.
I believe the muzzy fans work very well.

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posted April 22, 2004 11:44 AM        Edited By: n da zone on 22 Apr 2004 12:52
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The fan does move more air. It can change the rate of cooling, that is the amount of time needed for a given temperature drop. But if you have a cooling "problem" it won't cure it.
Doug



This topic has been extensively covered, and well documented, on this board. I remember Doug talking about how the http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=1284 chord on the Muzzy fan allowed it to move more air, even though it had less blades that the stocker. Now if I could remember where I left my keys ....

That mod is a good one. I live in central Florida, and that fan override sees use quite a bit. I NEVER wait for the radiator switch to cycle it on ... by then everything has gotten too hot, imho.

And with the Muzzy fan in there and running, the bikes temp gauge never goes above mid-point, even while sitting still on the freeway. Also consider water-wetter, engine ice or some other surfactant for the radiator.

Besides changing your oil regularly, dissipating heat is one of the ebst things you can do for engine longevity. If you love your bike, you've got to do this!!

Here's a thread on using the Emergency Flasher switch as the fan actuator http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=13&TID=10829

And the schematic i used is http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information%20Pages/Fan%20switch%20mod%20-%20L_A_%20Busa's.htm




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