kcadby
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posted November 20, 2001 09:03 AM
ENTROPY...Mr.201???
I have all 6 ZX6R springs now and...I LIKE it that way...
I'd be more inclined to think that you have tire-spin...
Like mike said...you SHOULD be able to shim the springs without trouble.
HOWEVER...I just (before the World Finals) had the clutch release parts take a shit...had to replace both parts that release the clutch...
These would be the parts you might have trouble with...with too-much spring pressure...especially if the springs coil-bind...if it feels like the lever doesn't want to come all the way in to the grip...DON'T FORCE IT!!!
Especially...when the motor is running...THAT would be VERY hard on the release mech...
I know you got some advice from LOFTY about tucking better...keep trying to run more "quiet" like he said.
I don't know anything about the tires...
When you do make it to the strip...be ready to go EASY on the throttle off the line, NEVER getting WFO in 1st, AND short shift 2nd (and maybe even 3rd) with that gearing...
Even with the Shootout tire...your going to need GOOD traction to get that thing down the track (quickly)...
That was Rickey's biggest problem with the 1361...TRACTION...
   
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entropy
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posted November 20, 2001 11:12 AM
KC - potential traction problem???
KC: I know that Sr Gadson reported a traction problem, but I've something in my ARSenal he doesn't: MY FAT ASS!!!!!
I am however, still cogitating on 4 gears vs 5. Whatta ya think. Given my situation and the best I ever got out of the "stock" setup was 9.63, should I start with 4 or 5 gears????
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Bergie
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posted November 20, 2001 07:09 PM
springs
I have two sets of the heavy duty schnitz racing springs for the 12. They are slightly longer, thicker, and obviously a shitload stronger. I can mail you a set to try out if you like, no problem. They are just sitting in my toolbox because both myself and my friend with the red 12 swapped them back out after only one day of use (clutch handle pull too stiff for street use).
Let me know.
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speedgeek
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posted November 20, 2001 07:20 PM
Now that's funny!
"I've something in my ARSenal he doesn't: MY FAT ASS!!!!!"
Really made me smile.  hahaha
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kcadby
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posted November 20, 2001 11:14 PM
Fat A??
I didn't forget that entropy but you MIGHT be surprised how much diff. the 6-over arm makes on your traction situation...and your 1361 has WAY more torq. than a stocker...
I was talking more about the traction that the track your at has (at the time)...even Gville's traction can SUCK sometimes and...the swingarm makes a BIG diff. in traction when the track isn't GOOD...even for my...not quite skinny ass...
Add this to my above post...
Be prepaired to move BACK on the seat (for traction) once your "past the wheelie stage" of your runs...
4-or-5...
If you think you have gotten "good" at throttle control???I think that with your ARSenal...you can use 5-gears if you do as posted above...(never get WFO in 1st [because of wheelies]...short shift 2nd so you CAN get WFO as soon as possible)...
It will be easier on the clutch for sure...
Since you already have the 4-gear gearing??? it might not hurt to try it first and see how you like it with the "new torq" though.
How many chains do you have 
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entropy
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posted November 21, 2001 01:32 AM
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4-or-5...
Since you already have the 4-gear gearing??? it might not hurt to try it first and see how you like it with the "new torq" though.
How many chains do you have
KC:
I have 2 chains, the "short" top end one (18/43) and the longer one for the 18/50. What I am thinking is that I could try the 5 gear set up with a 17/50, no chain mod. And KC, I am storing away all your hints on launching, throttle plan. I've never tried to launch a bike with an extended arm, so I am back to the back of the class in all respects. I really appreciate your help.
Bergie:
Thx for the offer of the schnitz springs. I will try shimming the Muzzy springs by .040-.050 for this weekend, then let you know.
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hondo
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posted November 21, 2001 01:56 AM
entropy, What tire pressure are you running for your top speed runs? What is your temperature gauge reading during your top speed runs? I keep seeing NASCAR radiator air inlet openings which are VERY small when I look at the front end of my 12. I'm figuring it might be interesting to tape off the lower slots in the fairing to limit air entry at speed. I've taped off 1/3 of my radiator plus the slots for just highway riding as a test. Speed 70's-80's MPH, with OAT mid 80's, gauge reading in the first 1/3 area during a 2 hour ride. Soon as I hit town though, the fan switched on at the first stop. Any air not needed to cool the motor during a top speed run just adds to drag as it fights to find an exit. To keep from cooking the fairing with some systems wrap the tight spot or apply insulation to the fairing. That's one reason I sent my exhaust out to be coated. Anybody have a servicible front fender? I really don't want to cut up a new one for another experiement I have in mind for drag reduction.
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