posted March 03, 2004 01:39 AM
Movie - The Passion So has anyone gone to see that new Mel Gibson movie "The Passion" or plan on seeing it? And what did ya think of it?
I just downloaded the entire movie last night...I dont know how anyone could goto a movie theatre and watch it while eating a bucket of popcorn cause I watched it and I all have to say is it's very intense.
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posted March 03, 2004 01:02 PM
Has anyone noticed a S/M trend in movies that involve Mel? Just look at 'Braveheart'. Personally, I just think he wants to *be* Christ...Why else would he form his own splinter Roman Catholic church?
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posted March 03, 2004 03:28 PM
He didn't for his own "slplinter" of the Catholic church. He is one of many who rejected to liberal changes the Pope made to the church several years ago.
I'm protestant, not Catholic, so I guesss I'm not qualified to comment on the validity of those changes and if they were right or wrong. But I will say this....If God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then how do you justify changing the rules in the middle of the game?
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posted March 05, 2004 08:57 AM
Just my thoughts.... It has taken me a week to process my thoughts, emotions, and reaction to Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion." I would say the move is unforgetable, brutal, and proves why Paul could say in (Rom 3:4): "God forbid yea, let God be true,
but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." After viewing the horrific agony, brutal
beating, and death that Jesus submitted Himself to
(See John 10:11-18), how could anyone say it wasn't enough? How could anyone doubt God's love? How
could the grieving sinner doubt God's love or the worthiness of Jesus' sacrifice for him (for me)? Satan was truly defeated on the cross, and as he watched the Passion of Jesus, he had to know each stripe, each drop of blood, each step towards the cross, each nail, sealed his doom and forever answered any questions about God's justice, fairness, and love ; even Satan knew it was enough...How about you?
Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the
sheep.
Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay
down my life for the sheep.
Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that
I might take it again.
Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have
power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment
have I received of my Father.
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posted March 05, 2004 09:40 AM
havent seen the movie, prolly won't (not a big fan of gore), but i really wonder, would the reaction to this movie be nearly as powerful if it werent for the background info (almost) all of us know about the subject matter? if the movie were about a fictional character, and not based on what many/most believe to be true events, i'm thinkin it would tank. from what i'v read, it really does nothing to explore the humanity or divinity of jesus, just shows what he went thru. that makes for a pretty lousy movie normally. seems mel is using people's knowledge of and belief in the story of christ as a big ass crutch. show the movie to someone who's never heard of jesus (dont know who the hell that would be), and they'd prolyl think it sucked as far as movies go. of course, that's assuming what i'v read of the movie is valid.
posted March 05, 2004 12:13 PM
I believe you've made a good point! In the end, it does come down to knowledge, faith, trust, and belief.
quote:havent seen the movie, prolly won't (not a big fan of gore), but i really wonder, would the reaction to this movie be nearly as powerful if it werent for the background info (almost) all of us know about the subject matter? if the movie were about a fictional character, and not based on what many/most believe to be true events, i'm thinkin it would tank. from what i'v read, it really does nothing to explore the humanity or divinity of jesus, just shows what he went thru. that makes for a pretty lousy movie normally. seems mel is using people's knowledge of and belief in the story of christ as a big ass crutch. show the movie to someone who's never heard of jesus (dont know who the hell that would be), and they'd prolyl think it sucked as far as movies go. of course, that's assuming what i'v read of the movie is valid.
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posted March 07, 2004 11:02 AM
Saw it last night. As far as movies go, it really wasn't that good. But yeah, a lot of folks were silent after watching it.
The movie mostly focused on the brutality and the beatings, flagelation, scourges, etc.
One thing that really stuck out in my mind is this: wasn't Christ temped by Lucifer while on the cross? What do you think was going through his mind when he said, "Why hast thou forsaken me?"
When Scorsesee made "Last Temptation of Christ" and explored that aspect folks went nuts. I don't get it.
As far as movies go, Scorsesee made a better one.
But I damn sure did tear up - mostly when the scenes involved Mary. That was just unreal. I won't give up any scenes, but there were a couple that were just really tough.
Mel is pretty good at death, gore, and agony. And he's done it again.
posted March 07, 2004 02:23 PM
"What do you think was going through his mind when he said, "Why hast thou forsaken me?""
it was at that moment that He experienced the TRUE punishment for sin, the seperation from God. At that moment the relationship with God was terminated abruptly and totally. That's the state of man due to his actions, no relationship at all.
What is truly profound is the ability of God to seperate that part of Himself from the rest, allowing the debt to be paid in full.
wild and crazy things. It will definately have an affect on those who know/understand what Jesus is all about.
As a movie, it was not entertaining. But it was never meant to be entertainment.
The biggest problem with the movie is that it DOES focus on the physical reality, while pretty much ignoring the greater spiritual reality. But i think that it DOES get across the point Mel was trying to.
PS does anyone know what was up with the efeminate satan with the little satanchild thing?
posted March 07, 2004 11:34 PM
I just got back from Spokane, saw the movie on the big screen. It has a whole different affect seeing it in the theatre versus watching a downloaded mpeg.
The movie is just intense, and extremely hard to swallow. I must admit though that I was expecting the movie to be worse (in regards to explicitly graphic scenes) than it actually was. To think Jesus went through worse than what the movie depicts just boggles my mind.
There were some scenes that were total conjecture, but appropiate in order to make the scenes flow. Plus I dont remember Jesus having help carry the cross, I am gonna have to look that up.
Again, extremely hard to swallow, but I wish the depths of the spirit would have been explored as much as the physical was. A lot is left misunderstood or not entirely understood for those who are not Christians and fully comprehend just what Christ did for us on ooh soo many levels.
And I still cant figure out why people can sit and eat popcorn and licorice during a movie like this. And someone shut the cell phones off....love thy neighbor I know I know.
posted March 07, 2004 11:57 PM
yeah, i believe he had to carry the cross himself. there are alot of towns where they re-enact the crusifiction every year and they participants carry it too. whether it was the norm to make the subject carry the cross or this was done for Jesus in particular i dont know. i seem to remember the other 2 people who were crusified at the same time also carried their crosses didnt they? been a loooong time since i picked up a bible, so really dont know for sure.
i hear ya about the phones tho beans. if ever there was a movie in which it was inappropriate... i mean seriously, how hard is it to remember to turn off ur phone? especially when they always play that little clip just before the feature starts where they tell u to turn it off :o
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