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posted February 10, 2004 06:17 PM
Hey Crackers
Just wanted to say hello to all, it's been sometime since I have been posting. Have had a lot of stuff going on in my life, thankfully all good.
So here's whats up, decided that racing an SV650 as fun as it would be with my schedule would be nothing more then a task (not at all what I'm looking for). Next best thing... ZX-10r yes in deed, I got to sit on one at the bike show in Chicago and was completley amazed by how light the bike felt. Plus I can still work in a Gap trip and think that would FUCKING GREAT at the track.
Anyway expect to see more smart ass comments and meaningless diarrhea of the key board. It feels good to be home.
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posted February 11, 2004 04:16 AM
What's this "Hey Crackers", please explain!
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posted February 11, 2004 04:22 AM
Mazel tov...hehe
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posted February 11, 2004 05:20 AM
Barto! When's the wedding in Vegas? Did ya pick a date yet?
I'm there man, let me know.
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posted February 11, 2004 06:40 AM
Bout time you posted something you chi-town chicken choker. Look forward to seeing you at the gap trip.
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posted February 11, 2004 09:20 AM
What up Barto, I got to ride my bike yesterday.
20 years in Florida this month, but still the first 22 were in Illinois. I guess I'll be turning into a cracker soon.
Koz, definition of a "cracker" (not that Bart knows this when he says it) -
Florida raises a lot of cattle and cowboys lived in Florida before they lived in the American West. From the 1800s, these folks "hunted" scrub cattle for the market and were named crackers because of the crack of their whips, with which they could brush a fly off a cow without touching the cow. "Florida cracker" is now also used to describe the style of simple houses that early Florida settlers lived in.
Oh, I guess a cracker also could be a "white guy".
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posted February 11, 2004 10:30 AM
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That is what I thought, that "Cracker" was a name for "White" Guys??  (White, Does not have any flexibility "as in NO rhythm"  )
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posted February 11, 2004 10:34 AM
Cracker = White guys/gals.
For my generation anyways.
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posted February 11, 2004 10:46 AM
I always thought is was something you put in your soup.
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posted February 11, 2004 10:51 AM
CRACKER
INTRODUCTION
"Buddy, I'll tell you this and I'll tell the wo'l - all the crackers, all the poah white trash, all the nigger-hitting and nigger-breaking white folks - I loves life and I got to live and I'll scab to hell to live."
Claude McKay's use of the word cracker in this passage from his novel Home to Harlem fiercely illustrates the potent and derogatory punch this epithet has when employed to describe whites. However, the word's etymology is slippery. It is also a designation used by and for Southerners many of whom self-identify proudly as crackers, especially whites from Georgia and sometimes from Florida. ( At the same time, much of the impact the word has on its recipients and their reactions depend on who's doing the calling and where the people doing the calling are from. Indeed, one study identifies 21 kinds of crackers , all but one identified with the South. (McDavid, 96) While the word cracker has varied and shifting definitions, and while "cracker culture" is a major field of study all by itself, the word cracker actually holds mostly negative connotations stemming back to its first usage. In fact, in Florida, the word cracker when used as a racial epithet is a violation under the Florida Hate Crimes Act. (Hendrickson, 52).
This general definition provides the framework for understanding that a cracker can be a
person as well as a thing
CRACKER n
1. general. One who or that which cracks (in any of the senses of the vb.).
1625 B. JONSON Staple of News Prol. for Crt., To scholars..above the vulgar sort Of
nut-crackers, that only come for sight. (OED)
1842 DICKENS Amer. Notes (1850) 14/1 A teller of anecdotes and cracker of jokes. (OED)
This definition helps provide background on the bad "character" of the cracker.
2. esp. A boaster, braggart; a liar. A Celtic word meaning a loudmouth. (Tonyan)
1594 SHAKES. John II. i. 147 What cracker is this same that deafes our eares With this abundance of superfluous breath? (OED)
1652 ASHMOLE Theatr. Chem. cx. 208 Beware..Of Boasters and Crackers, for they will thee
beguile. (OED)
1746 Brit. Mag. 48 Crackers against you are hang'd in Effigy. (OED)
1766 G. COCHRANE Let. 27 June (D.A.), I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by
crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the
frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas and Georgia, who often change their places of abode. (OED)
This definition sheds more light on the negative connotations connected with cracker.
3. [ l7C - early 20C] familiar or colloq. An enormous lie. ( Farmer, 201) A very tall story. (Partridge, 264)
1871 Daily News 24 July, Learning to tell lies, and call them 'crackers'. (OED)
This definition underscores just how very negative the connotation can be.
4. [late l7C-l8C] the backside. (Green, p.283) the anus or buttocks (Spears, 88; 1811)
This definition and examples place the word in the most commonly understood U.S. historical and cultural context.
Cracker U.S. A poor white Southern person ( also "rustic", "countrified", "backwoods"
(Cassidy, 825) "uneducated"(Major,119), "low-down'(Rowan,99) and "white trash." ) The area of Southeast Georgia, and North Central Florida are most closely associated with word. (Hill 223)
Also attrib.
According to some, cracker is short for corn-cracker, which was a name for a Southern highlander in the nineteenth century (Allen, 50); but early quotes leave this doubtful. There are several other compounds besides corn-cracker associated with the word cracker.
Corn-cracker also refers to one who cracks corn to make grits or cornmeal, corn being a principal ingredient of the diet of backwoodmen (Presley) and poor whites linked to certain regions of Georgia
and Florida. After the Civil War, many were too poor to buy corn meal and had no choice but to make their own. (Hendrickson, 76). Corn-cracker is first atttested to only in 1835. (Wordorigins).
The theme of crack corn for the purpose of making liquor is found in the folk song Blue Tailed Fly "Jimmy crack corn." (HALIFAX) in which a slave sings about how is master got drunk, fell, hit his
Head, and died. And the slave 'don't care'. (Burke)
1767 Allen D. Chandler, Let. A parcel of people commonly called Crackers, a set of Vagabonds often as bad or worse than the Indians themselves (OED)
1783 McWhiney, XIV A German visiting the Carolina backcountry found longhorn cattle, swine, and
slovenly people whom he identified as "Crackers." (OED)
1784 Lond. Chron. No. 4287 Maryland, the back settlements of which colony had
since the peace been greatly disturbed by the inroads of that hardy banditti well known by the name
of Crackers. (OED)
1790. A Spanish official reported the "influx [into Florida] of rootless people called Crackers." He described them as rude and nomadic, excellent hunters but indifferent farmers who planed only a few patches of corn as people who kept "themselves beyond the reach of all civilized law." (OED)
1836. Knickerbocker 7, 453. It is the killing of the cattle of the crackers - as the souther backwoodmen are called- that is the most fruitful of disputes. (OED)
1850 Lyell 2nd Visit U.S. II. 73 Sometimes..my host would be of the humblest class of 'crackers', or some low, illiterate German or Irish emigrants. (OED)
1887 Harper's Mag. May 843/Numbers of lawyers would gather together and relate their observations of Cracker life. 1908 (OED)
1888 Harper's Mag. July 240 They will live like the crackers of Georgia or the moonshiners of Tennessee. (OED)
1926 Kephard Highlanders. As the plantations expanded these freed men [formerly bond servants) were
pushed further and further back upon the more and more sterile soil. They became "pinelanders,
"corn-crackers," or "crackers." ( Cassidy, 826)
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b. attrib.; the Cracker State, Georgia.
1872 SCHELE DE VERE Americanisms 659 Georgia..little deserves the name of Cracker State, by which it is occasionally designated. (OED)
1910 Washington Herald 27 Nov. 9 Through November the 'Cracker State' has occupied the center of motordom's stage. (OED)
This definition involves the whip, its pieces, its sound and those who used the whip. One theory is that cracker was coined by black people in reference to the whip-cracking during enslavement; by extension any white person. (Smitherman,100)
An attachment to the end of a whip-lash such as a piece of buckskin by which a cracking
sound can be produced. Wentworth, 85). Also, the hide string, end of a bull whip of a buggy
whip. (Green, 264) The sound of whips cracking was heard when Florida cattlemen
would drive the oxen that pulled their carts and wagons and when Florida cowboys
herded cattle. (Tonyan)
1835 MONETT in J. H. Ingraham South-West II. 288 To the end of the lash is attached a soft,
dry, buckskin cracker... So soft is the cracker, that a person who has not the sleight of using the
whip could scarcely hurt a child with it. (OED)
1842 BUCKINGHAM, The Slave States of American (London, 1842, p.210) They are called by the twos people "Crackers," from the frequency with which they crack their large whips, as if they derived a peculiar pleasure from the sound. (OED)
1880 A. A. HAYES New Colorado (1881) x. 140 Each wagoner must tie a brand-new 'cracker' to the lash of his whip. (OED)
1887 Beacon (Boston) 11 June, The word Cracker..is supposed to have been suggested by their cracking whips over oxen or mules in taking their cotton to the market. (OED)
1907 W. H. KOEBEL
Return of Joe 164 Fresh and efficient crackers swung continually at the ends of the stockwhips. (OED)
1966 'J. HACKSTON' Father clears Out 64 I'd plaited a whip specially for the occasion with a new
green cracker on it. (OED)
This definition refers to the food stuff, but its coloring provides the context an added meaning.
7.. [ l7C - 19C] Crust, sea biscuit, or ammunition loaf. A thin hard biscuit. (Now chiefly in U.S.)
1739 in New Eng. Hist. & Gen. Register (1868) XII. 296 Wee haue..sent a box of Crakers to
you. (OED)
1781 W. MOSS Essay Management & Nursing of Children 108 Hard biscuit,
commonly called crackers, are sometimes given; but they are heavy, owing to their being made
without yeast and not fermented. (OED)
1868 B. J. LOSSING Hudson 28 The hunters live chiefly on bread or crackers. (OED)
Interestingly, the word cracker in reference to white people by Blacks is possibly derived from association with the whiteness of soda crackers. (Talkin 252) as opposed to ginger cookies. (Juba 119)
This definition of cracker is the racially charged one and is best understood after carefully considering all previous definitions as to how it evolved.
8. Cracker is also a Black name for whites, especially those thought to be racists. (Allen 50)
( Synonyms: U.S Black-use and also slang, early l900s to present: Ball-face, Beast,
Blue-eyed Devil, Bright Skin, Buckra, Charles, Charlie, Chick, Clay-eaters Dap, Devil, Dirteater, Dog, Face, Fade, Fay, Frosty, Georgia Cracker, Gray, Gray Boy, Grey Boy, Hay-eater, Hinkty, Honky, Hoople, Hunky, Jeff, Keltch, Ju Kluxer, Lily-white, Long Knife, Marshmallow, Mean white, Mister Charlie, Mondy, Mule, Ofay, Oofay, Paddy, Paddy Boy Plae, Pale-face, Peck, Peckerwood, Peek-a-Woods, Piney-Woods People, Pink, Pinky, Redneck, Ridgerunner, Roundeye, Shitkicker, Silk, Snake, The Man, White Meat, White Paddy Whitey. (Spears, 88)
1928 McKay. Home to Harlem. 49. Buddy, I'll tell you this and I'll tell the wo'l - all the crackers, all the poah white trash, all the nigger-hitting and nigger-breaking white folks - I loves life and I got to live and I'll scab through hell to live. (Cassidy 826)
Stribling Store 473 AL, "We would do very well with white folks if it weren't for these miserable
crackers", declared the tan girl passionately. (Cassidy 826)
1965 Little Autobiography of Malcom X 78. A big beefy, redfaced cracker soldier got up in front of me... and announced ..."I'm going to fight you nigger." (Cassidy 826)
Smitherman Talkin 252 Cracker, negative term for whites, especially those who are extremely racist. ( Cassidy 826)
1980 Sun Times (Chicago, IL) 5 Mar Letters [From R.I. McDavid), I must deplore...Jay McMullen's tactless, racist designation of President Carter as a "Georgia cracker." It is one of the most offensive terms that can be used about whites, and it has been traditionally used by blacks to designate the poorest, most degraded whites with whom they come in contact. (Cassidy 826)
Works Cited and Consulted
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Allen, Irving Lewis. Unkind Words: Ethnic Labeling from Redskin to WASP. New York: Bergin & Garvey, 1990: 49-50.
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Chapman, Robert L. New Dictionary of American Slang. New York: Harper & Row,
1986: 76, 85.
Claerbaut, David. Black Jargon in White America. Grand Rapids, Eerdmans, 1972.
Farmer, John S. A Dictionary of Slang: an Alphabetical History of Colloquial,
Unorthodox, Underground and Vulgar English. Ware, Hertfordshire [England: Wordsworth Editions, 1987: 201.
Green, Jonathon. The Cassell Dictionary of Slang. London: Cassell, 1998: 283.
Green, Paul. Paul Green's Wordbook: an Alphabet of Reminiscence. Boone:
Appalachian Consortium Press; Chapel Hill, N.C.: Paul Green Foundation, 1990: 264.
Grose, Francis. 1811 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue: a Dictionary of Buckish Slang,
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Out: Communication in Urban Black America. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1973: 143.
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U.S.A.: Penguin Books, 1994: 119.
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Magazine. Charleston, S.C. [etc.]: South Carolina Historical Society, Vol.22, No.3 (1921): 99.
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Racial Epithet." Names: Journal of the American Name Society. Potsdam, N.Y.: State University College, Vol.35, No.1 (March 1987): 28-39.
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deathpulse
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posted February 11, 2004 11:17 AM
Wow - and I always liked my crackers with cheese...
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posted February 11, 2004 11:18 AM
I personally prefer the jalapeno cheese on my crackers, a staple in today's military diet of MRE's....aaah the memories
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posted February 11, 2004 02:26 PM
Swft, go to the head of the class and get the gold Star!!
I knew something about Hunky and Honky Otis should also know because in Detroit, some of the first factory workers were Hungarian and were Called Hunkys. Also whites were called Honkys because of the sound when they blew their noses which were a lot of times long and narrow and made a Honking sound when they blew their Nose.
But to the "whip cracking" Never thought of that, The Crack in their rear which black people seem to want to emulate nowadays Never thought of that either?
The Author of this thread has yet to answer, and now that every possible meaning has been exposed, I just cannot wait
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posted February 11, 2004 02:36 PM
You have definitly just raised my I.Q. thank-you
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posted February 11, 2004 03:07 PM
??????
WOW wtf was that all about.
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posted February 11, 2004 03:14 PM
quote:
WOW wtf was that all about.
This is what Happens when you use a word that has 100 meanings and most of them not too good! SO answer the question, "What do you mean by CRACKER"??
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posted February 11, 2004 03:21 PM
so what exactly is a cracker?
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posted February 12, 2004 03:59 AM
Edited By: Otis on 12 Feb 2004 04:00
Yeah, I know honky. Around here in the 70's and 80's, honky was a term used much much more frequently about us white folk than cracker.
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posted February 12, 2004 04:36 AM
Another term....
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- by Commander Kickstand - Yeah, I know honky. Around here in the 70's and 80's, honky was a term used much much more frequently about us white folk than cracker.
I'll also bet the words "Stupid Motherfucker" were directed at you a few times too eh........
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posted February 12, 2004 05:06 AM
Woah! Took a wrong turn.... How do I get back to the turn pike???
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posted February 12, 2004 05:31 AM
Hey you tennessee turdburgler, who's you calling a stupid mutherfucker? Biatch.
Really though, what's up brother? haven't spoken to you in a while.
Tony, get on 696 west to 275 south to 75 south go south of Toledo and you'll hit the turnpike. LMAO
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posted February 12, 2004 05:42 AM
"Your about a stupid motherfucker" isn't that my favorite line?
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posted February 12, 2004 06:05 AM
quote:
Really though, what's up brother? haven't spoken to you in a while.
Dude I have been on the go in a major way lately. I need one of our "Front Porch Getaways" and I need it NOW!!!!! The sad thing is that I am now thinking the May trip is NOT gonna happen for me.  I really can't say for sure, but it's leaning towards a "no go". But you know if there is anyway I can pull it off I will. I'll try and fire you an email today or tomorrow and catch up with you.
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posted February 12, 2004 06:48 AM
Very Interesting.
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posted February 12, 2004 07:33 AM
Stay out of Toledo, You know that is where I am from and still have family there and where a lot of my "NO MONEY" is going to keep the property up and pay taxes until it is sold!
Otis, we were a little to fay north for Cracker, I remember a girlfriend of mine said, Look at the Patty Girl shoes I just bought. The thing was, to me, the terms were not as bad as the ones we were called. To me, they were in the sam connotation at calling the Police "The Man" the "L", The "Men in Blue" and maybe the "Fuzz".
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