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posted January 12, 2004 07:36 AM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 13 Jan 2004 06:31
Power Commander USB for the ZX12R info & Pix

I've been in posession of one of these units for about 6 months now... I'm finally given the okay to admit that, and post some picks.. so as promised, let me was the mexican dirt and sand off of myself and gimmee a few hours qand I'll be back with more.......

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posted January 12, 2004 08:01 AM        
Yah, those donkey hoofprints are hard to wash off!
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posted January 12, 2004 08:51 PM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 12 Jan 2004 20:56
Alrighty... sorry this has taken so long for me to post... I've been waiting months (literally) ... I haven't been allowed to show these photos until now.


The installation of the PC USB is pretty much the same as the PC3/R units....




Physically the units are quite different. The old PC3R looks like this....





The new unit is smaller, has different mounting points (small slots on this sides, which I used cable ties/ "zap straps" to affix it to my DinoSeatHinge). Note that the preproduction unit sports no markings or part #.





Here is a close up of the USB port...



To the left of the USB port is the expansion port so that you can plug in your ignition advance module and the other modules of which I cannot speak




One of the most noticeable differences between the old and new units is the wiring harness. It really makes to old one look pretty bad IMHO.... See for yourself..





The shielding is substantial on the new unit...




As for installation and uploading of maps, it's straight forward. Gone were the "powercommander not found" messages we all grew to love . The only problem I had was that a specific USB driver was needed to install the unit and DJ's software called for my Windows CD... like every good admin I had lent mine out so I was SOL and spent an entire day online trying to find the driver.. by the time I found it I'd gotten my disc back... It was a real life scenario and I pointed out to DJ that it could (and did) happen. I hope that they heeded my advice and are shipping the production units with all the necessary drivers.

The software interface has changed slightly. There are more options, including individual maps for each cylinder and some other cool bits. The "resolution" of the maps has increased. Also the amount of reference points for the TPS has increase enormously.


All in all it's a much better package than the original.. Definitely feels like the "future" is coming when you get to play with things like this.



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posted January 13, 2004 12:43 AM        
When will the other modules be available?
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posted January 13, 2004 03:32 AM        
Paint that damned swingarm already...lol
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posted January 13, 2004 06:35 AM        
why paint it? my bike is silver ... I like it like that!

gg... I dont have that information... a certain user on this site does, but I dont know if he will post it...
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posted January 13, 2004 09:12 AM        Edited By: gg on 13 Jan 2004 09:36
Maybe the admin can prompt that certain user to view this thread

I'm interested in the timing module and shifter.


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posted January 13, 2004 10:04 AM        
The shifter is ready to rock for all pc3usb units. I haven't taken the time to put a shifter on my bike yet so there you go. So order one of the zx12 kits and show the world.

The ign module is in development. Can't say when the expected release date is but we are working on it and should be out soon (ish).

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posted January 13, 2004 10:16 AM        
I should clear this up. I don't know if the prototype that I sent Fish is actually smaller or if he still has too many senoritas on his mind, but the Usb unit is actually slightly larger than a pcIII/r. The mounting tabs are for mounting straps and the cable is protected much better and over all is a cleaner unit.
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posted January 13, 2004 11:20 AM        
A good admin would have stored all the CAB files on an installed computer so you dont have to go huntin' for the disc next time.

Is that USB 1.1 or High Speed USB 2.0?

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posted January 13, 2004 11:53 AM        
hmmm... I couldve sworn it was smaller.... I'll go and take a peak when I get a chance....
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posted January 13, 2004 12:34 PM        
It uses the standard Usb and HID drivers from any Windows version 98SE and up. We have included a set of drivers on the cd for those of you that don't have your windows cd. Full Speed Usb (not High Speed 2.0).

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posted January 13, 2004 04:04 PM        
Hey Fish, Now can I buy a PC3r usb ? Haven't those been out awhile with USB?
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posted January 13, 2004 04:15 PM        
NO .. you have to buy a PC USB and then wait for tearinitup to get off his ass and build the "r" expansion module so you can plug it in.
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posted January 14, 2004 07:53 AM        
Ha ha, funny fish.
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posted February 23, 2004 08:15 PM        
I really only care about having a good smooth running bike, Maybe I would be happy with just the 3 not the "R" model. Is it really going to make that much diff.
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posted February 24, 2004 07:34 AM        
I think that you would be happy with a 3 Usb. We have several other features that will help you out. Closer map resolution, programable "accel pump", speed shifter, individual cylinder maping.
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posted February 24, 2004 09:08 AM        
Josh I use and standard PCIII and a mechanical advance oin my bike and it runs pretty strong, and only has the slightest of hesitation thanks to Kcadby's map that he made for me.....
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posted February 24, 2004 10:38 PM        
Quick Shifter is available now. Cuts signal to injector bank (0.003 sec)allowing clutchless,WFO shifts. www.powercommander.com
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posted February 24, 2004 10:46 PM        
wheee...whats the cost on these items?

does the "quickshifter" allow you to incoporate a solenoid air shifter mechanism as well?
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posted February 25, 2004 06:11 AM        
Thought the QS was strictly engine kill. If you wanted air or electric upshift, you'd have to do that with an existing system.
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posted February 25, 2004 07:01 AM        
well why wouldnt it act as the "kill" mechanism for an air/elec shifter?
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posted February 25, 2004 07:26 AM        
True. The PCIIIusb doesn't physically shift for you. Just a fuel based engine kill to unload the tranny.
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posted February 25, 2004 09:16 AM        
Are you completely missing my question...or am I just not asking it right

If I push the button and it kills the motor briefly....couldnt the "button" be integrated into an airshifter as well to take advantage of that kill and not have to foot shift.
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posted February 25, 2004 09:57 AM        
I'm sure it can YCIS...
.003 isn't long enough though...I'm sure they must mean .03 sec. (at LEAST)...normal air shifters use from 50 to 80 MSec. (.05-.08 sec)...

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