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TNID200
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posted June 08, 2012 04:05 PM
 Edited By: TNID200 on 8 Jun 2012 23:10
How Hot Is Too Hot? - 14R
Today I rode a little stretch on the interstate. I had been moving at 80-85 MPH for 30 miles when I hit the exit ramp, and I ended up waiting in line there for about 5-7 minutes. While I was sitting on the ramp the bikes coolant temp climbed as high as 214 degrees. Traffic finally started moving about the time the bike got to 214, so I'm not sure how much higher it might have gone.
The outside air temperature was only 86 at the time. Should the bike have gotten so hot? I'm a little worried about how the bike will act when the weather goes up to 95 or 100 degrees later this season.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but the 14R is the first vehicle I've owned that gave the coolant temp with degrees rather than just a needle gauge. I'm not sure what the safe temperature limit is for the engine.
Thanks
Edit: The bike has no performance mods of any sort. Stock exhaust and all. About 2500 miles.
  
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Bently
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posted June 08, 2012 04:06 PM
I've seen 208 on mine in similar temps and wait times. I'm not very concerned about it.
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CraZX14
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posted June 08, 2012 04:29 PM
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I've seen 208 on mine in similar temps and wait times. I'm not very concerned about it.
+1. The 2nd fan kicks in just over 200 on mine - it seems to cool better than my old 2006 '14. I wouldn't worry unless it goes over 230.
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smokinZX14
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posted June 08, 2012 04:31 PM
Don't sweat it ... As long as it goes back down as you get moving you are ok ... Newer cars run 210 to 220 ... Heat = HP and MPG .. It will run cooler once you replace the dog rocket exhaust with a good 4 into one exhaust ..
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posted June 08, 2012 04:43 PM
88 degrees on the highway taching 4500 my 14r runs 198-201 after about 15 miles..
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smokinZX14
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posted June 08, 2012 04:46 PM
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88 degrees on the highway taching 4500 my 14r runs 198-201 after about 15 miles..
wee
yes But you got hot Pizza gears.. 
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posted June 08, 2012 04:48 PM
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88 degrees on the highway taching 4500 my 14r runs 198-201 after about 15 miles..
wee
yes But you got hot Pizza gears..
tru dat, I think the speed was 65 mph
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kaw-rick
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posted June 08, 2012 04:50 PM
my fan kicks on at 207.
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posted June 08, 2012 05:50 PM
I added a relay & put a manual switch on my fan... Riding in NY can be a pain, especially when you hit traffic...
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posted June 08, 2012 06:24 PM
I replaced my coolant with lp coolant. It was the only one my local stealership had in stock at the time. It seems to help a bit. My temps usually stay.in lower 200s while stopped.
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reynoldss
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posted June 08, 2012 06:31 PM
I was really impressed at these temps. Even in stopped traffic. Actually the coolest running bike I've ever had and ironically highest horepower. My old 14 used to peg outa sight in stopped traffic & this is a huge improvement.
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TNID200
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posted June 08, 2012 06:39 PM
Edited By: TNID200 on 9 Jun 2012 01:49
Thanks for the info, guys. I didn't realize the temp could go up so high (above 212) and be alright. I rarely get stuck in traffic, so hopefully I'll never have a real problem with heat.
I'm scheduled for a track day at Barber this fall, so I'll probably change to Water Wetter for that anyway. Maybe that will take some load off the fans.
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hagrid
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posted June 08, 2012 07:36 PM
Understand that the 14R cooling system operates at a pressure approaching 18psi. That changes the boiling point of pure H20 above 212F. Add to that you have an ethylene glycol based coolant in your scoot. At atmospheric pressure its boiling point is well above 212F... add to that 18psi... boiling point goes even higher.
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TNID200
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posted June 28, 2012 10:41 AM
Edited By: TNID200 on 28 Jun 2012 17:43
So far, the all-time record high in Chattanooga is 106.
Maybe I'll take the bike out this weekend and see what happens with the temp in this weather...
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posted June 28, 2012 12:33 PM
105+ multiple days in a row in DFW and 100% at 10pm. Rode it fairly hard last night and saw 200 a couple of times at lights but can't tell you how impressed with how well this big bike cools itself!
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sands
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posted June 28, 2012 03:47 PM
You were sitting at a traffic light for 5 minutes or more and it got to 214 ? Completely normal.
You have absolutely nothing to worry about...I'm surprised it didn't go higher...A lot of bikes will go higher in shorter amounts of time... I had an RC 51 and it would go up to 220 in much less amount of time even in cooler weather of course that's when I would shut it off....
That's a clear signal that the 14r has a very good cooling system.
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TNID200
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posted June 28, 2012 09:22 PM
Thanks, guys. I'll take her out for a little while on Saturday. If she can handle the high of 108, I'll never worry again.
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posted June 29, 2012 12:25 PM
as long as the fans are coming on...ride the dang thing.
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posted June 30, 2012 10:05 AM
if youre really worried bout it drain and fill it with some engine ice, it was one of the first few things i did when i bought the bike.
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TNID200
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posted June 30, 2012 12:38 PM
Not really worried about it, just didn't know what a safe temp range would be. This bike is the first vehicle I've owned that gives the temp in a digital read-out instead of just a needle between hot and cold.
It's 104 outside right now... Probably will take a ride in a little bit. Good times.
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TNID200
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posted June 30, 2012 10:03 PM
So I took the bike out this afternoon. The outside air temp was 107 when I got home. I let the bike idle in the driveway for a little while after the ride, but even in that heat the coolant temp only got up to 219.
I am impressed.
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