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posted February 13, 2010 03:13 PM
 Edited By: JDC on 13 Feb 2010 23:14
Revisiting Oil FIlters - consolidating the list
Took the oil filter info from previous post http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=48848&pagenumber=1 and consolidated it here:
Hi-Flo Filtro HF 303
Mobil 1 M1-108 and M1-110
K&N KN 303
K&N (automotive) is a hp -1008
Fram Ph6017A
Purolator L14612, is shorter than PL14610
Purolator PL14610, extended length, flows 7-9/9-11 gpm - conflicting info on flo in the posts
Ac Delco PF1237
WIX 51365
Hastings LF-113 short and LF- 240f is the longer version
Amsoil EAO 103
Napa Gold 1358
NAPA 1356, flows 9-11 gpm, which is the equivalant to the Purolator PL14610 flows 7-9 gpm (but if you type in "PS" before any of the NAPA numbers, you come up with the powersports series which in the case of the:
Purolator L14612
NAPA 1365/PS1365, same as the PL14610 except about .825" shorter
Fram 303 is the shortest for the ZX14 (wonder if the hi-Flo 303 is the same height?)
"Here's a good analysis of oil filters
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html"
  
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posted February 13, 2010 03:16 PM
we needed another oil thread 
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posted February 13, 2010 03:37 PM
Edited By: BIG BLUE_ZX14 on 13 Feb 2010 23:39
What about the Kawi filter? That's all I've used.
Assist...
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html
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posted February 13, 2010 04:04 PM
oil filters again .................................Shit .........
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posted February 13, 2010 06:30 PM
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oil filters again .................................Shit .........
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posted February 13, 2010 06:48 PM
I think you meant to say K&N 303 is the shortest. I didnt know they made a high flow 303
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posted February 13, 2010 07:04 PM
quote:
Took the oil filter info from previous post http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=48848&pagenumber=1 and consolidated it here:
Hi-Flo Filtro HF 303
Mobil 1 M1-108 and M1-110
K&N KN 303
K&N (automotive) is a hp -1008
Fram Ph6017A
Purolator L14612, is shorter than PL14610
Purolator PL14610, extended length, flows 7-9/9-11 gpm - conflicting info on flo in the posts
Ac Delco PF1237
WIX 51365
Hastings LF-113 short and LF- 240f is the longer version
Amsoil EAO 103
Napa Gold 1358
NAPA 1356, flows 9-11 gpm, which is the equivalant to the Purolator PL14610 flows 7-9 gpm (but if you type in "PS" before any of the NAPA numbers, you come up with the powersports series which in the case of the:
Purolator L14612
NAPA 1365/PS1365, same as the PL14610 except about .825" shorter
Fram 303 is the shortest for the ZX14 (wonder if the hi-Flo 303 is the same height?)
don't leave out the Walmart ST6607 and ST7317,,, they are made by Champion , same mfg as the mobil 1 and Bosch filters
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posted February 14, 2010 12:02 AM
go ahead and take the frams out since they're shit...
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posted February 14, 2010 06:36 AM
I know this topic is beat to death, but it's nice to have all the numbers in one place. I need to save them to my comp.
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posted February 14, 2010 07:14 AM
Edited By: JDC on 14 Feb 2010 15:51
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I know this topic is beat to death, but it's nice to have all the numbers in one place. I need to save them to my comp.
exactly.
I'm looking up what I can find on these filters for height and flo to 'finalize' the list.
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I saw this chart from http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ukc-zs9DdmIJ:forums.maxima.org/fluids-lubricants/607090-vq35-oil-selection-post7407530.html+Mobile+1+M1-108+dimension&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us I haven't been able to tracks it's origin yet. Maybe here http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/258663-vq-oil-analysis-and-info-3.html
I saw this at http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:-pWVf_QqG28J:www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-liter-litre-factory-motor/16252-sti-oil-filter-analysis-preliminary-data-dimensions-pics.html+Mobile+1+M1-108+dimension&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
"Each filter's diameters were measured and the filter was cut open and the internal diameters measured. Also took pictures of everything. In short - the best filter is the OEM filter in the standard replacement category. Use the OEM filter. It is, without a doubt, the best in construction and filter area/volume in the standard replacement filters. In second place is the PureONE. The OEM filter might be eclipsed by a filter in the oversized category but only time will tell. I need to start ripping apart the oversized filters. I have further comments in the Excel Spreadsheet. Click on the XLS file to view the excel spreadsheet with all the data. Go into the directories to view the pictures. The names of the directories correspond to the filters. I also have a compare directory. There are two sheets to the XLS file. The first sheet is the standard replacement filters. The second sheet is the oversized filters.
http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/
IMHO, nothing comes close to the OEM filter in the standard replacement category. The standard PureONE (PL14612) was close in filter area ... but still lacked the overall bulletproof construction of the OEM casing and gasket. The oversized PL14610 PureONE has more filter area, but still lacks the bulletproof construction of the OEM filter. Now, with that said, if you want a filter you can pickup locally that is a kickass filter then the PL14610 is your friend. It's the best 'aftermarket' filter so far (I reserve the right to change this as time progresses and I test more filters). I was very disappointed with both the K&N and Mobil-1 filters. These filters only had like 1/2 of the filter area of the OEM. Rumor has it that the M1-110 is a longer version of the M1-108 and will yield better total area/volume. I'll put it on my list of filters to obtain."
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posted February 14, 2010 09:06 AM
Edited By: JDC on 14 Feb 2010 17:10
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posted February 14, 2010 09:48 AM
i have yet to have a problem with oem.... just sayin
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posted February 14, 2010 11:12 AM
oil filters will be history soon, change is coming!
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posted February 14, 2010 11:57 AM
+1
HF 303 looks to be A high flow AF that would fit
Good length info chart for me I have to run a 3.34 or shorter
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posted February 14, 2010 11:58 AM
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go ahead and take the frams out since they're shit...
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posted February 14, 2010 12:02 PM
Purolator are much lower in price heard they are OK
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posted February 14, 2010 08:01 PM
Napa Gold here since day one. Great filters
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posted February 15, 2010 06:30 AM
I ran K&n forever.......
but, the amsoil filters are built way better......
Without cutting them open, you would not know much. I cut all my filters......
Ever seen a fram.......wow, nothing there.
Wix makes good filters actually, and amsoil recomends them
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posted February 15, 2010 03:11 PM
If you use Purolator stay with the ML 16817. The" pure one" does not have valving designed to operate within MC oil pump parameters. This info is from Purolator's web site.
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posted February 15, 2010 04:09 PM
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If you use Purolator stay with the ML 16817. The" pure one" does not have valving designed to operate within MC oil pump parameters. This info is from Purolator's web site.
? I could swear that a number of folks said they have used the Pl 14612/14610! What exactly is the difference?
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posted February 15, 2010 05:08 PM
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? I could swear that a number of folks said they have used the Pl 14612/14610! What exactly is the difference?
some have been using that since '06
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posted February 15, 2010 06:48 PM
quote:
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If you use Purolator stay with the ML 16817. The" pure one" does not have valving designed to operate within MC oil pump parameters. This info is from Purolator's web site.
? I could swear that a number of folks said they have used the Pl 14612/14610!
What exactly is the difference?
PL14610 is a higher capacity filter and I have been using that filter since my bikes's 1st oil change.
Great filter 
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posted February 18, 2010 08:34 PM
quote:
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If you use Purolator stay with the ML 16817. The" pure one" does not have valving designed to operate within MC oil pump parameters. This info is from Purolator's web site.
? I could swear that a number of folks said they have used the Pl 14612/14610!
What exactly is the difference?
PL14610 is a higher capacity filter and I have been using that filter since my bikes's 1st oil change.
Great filter
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posted February 18, 2010 08:41 PM
All i have ever used is PL14612 pure one , the PL14610 hits my header ...3000+ 1/4 miles passes tell me it works just fine ..
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posted February 18, 2010 11:32 PM
Bump!
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