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gots2bd


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posted February 03, 2009 04:11 PM        
Stretched ZX-14

Need some help. Im going to be stretching my ZX-14. Do I have to lower it?

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kaw-rick


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posted February 03, 2009 04:13 PM        
no
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87gtNOS


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posted February 03, 2009 04:26 PM        
Here is a question....if I buy lowering links, what do I do with the front?
I wouldn't mind putting on a set of links in the middle hole.
I do NOT intend to stretch the bike.

So do you simply lower the forks a half inch?

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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 04:42 PM        
yeap 87gtnos. dont want to go much lower than that in the front because of the fender clearance.
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Bawls


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posted February 03, 2009 04:44 PM        
Mine is lowered an inch and I whack the fender on the front fairing every now and then, but it will just leave a little hickey on the top of your fender. Nothing too bad.
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pazx14rider


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posted February 03, 2009 04:47 PM        
Techically you dont have to do anything to the front of the bike. and you dont want to daily ride with the front stapped. Only problem with not adjusting the front to compensate what you have done to the rear is suspension travel. When you lower the rear... under extreme braking through the front brakes where 90% of your braking should be...you can actaully lift the rear off the ground!! I had a buddy do that comming down the side of a mountain through a turn he broke hard making a left hand corner the rear wheel picked up and the bike shot to the right when he corrected. your best bet is to lower the front forks as to match the rear.
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87gtNOS


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posted February 03, 2009 04:57 PM        
Thanks fellas!
It was the pics of pazx14rider's bike lowered that got me thinking!!
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kawasakijockey


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posted February 03, 2009 05:05 PM        
You can lower the front 1.25 inch without a problem.
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Shane661


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posted February 03, 2009 05:11 PM        
Yes, you should lower it. When you extend the bike it will raise it in the rear if you don't get some lowering links.

Shane

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rACeRs


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posted February 03, 2009 06:21 PM        
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Yes, you should lower it. When you extend the bike it will raise it in the rear if you don't get some lowering links.

Shane


+1 If you dont lower the rear it will be riding high. the longer you go the taller it will sit in the rear. just look at the downward angle your swingarm has now and imagine if you were to move the wheel back it will sit that much taller.
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rACeRs


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posted February 03, 2009 06:23 PM        Edited By: rACeRs on 4 Feb 2009 01:33
Here is extended and slammed


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rACeRs


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posted February 03, 2009 06:29 PM        
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You can lower the front 1.25 inch without a problem.


This depends on your weight, suspension settings, and how hard you ride it. Im 205lbs unsuited and when I had the front 1.25" lower I would hit the fender on the fairings pretty often, even on bumps in the road. I now have it dropped 1" in the front and havent hit the fender yet.
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01smokes


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posted February 03, 2009 06:49 PM        
what do you guys think about lowering the front about half a inch than using a strap when im at the track to take it down to about the 1.5'' total
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rACeRs


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posted February 03, 2009 06:50 PM        
I run mine 1" lowered always and then strap it down at the track which works good for me. But .5" will work too, just depends how low you want it.
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posted February 03, 2009 07:49 PM        Edited By: dubious on 4 Feb 2009 02:56
If you want it to handle decent, lower both ends equally.
Initially I lowerd the rear 3 " and the front 1", and it wanted to stand up in the corners... rode like a chopper, and frt tire feedback was poor with that much rear bias.

I settled on 1.25 each end for the street, then you can strap the front and drop the rear for the track. My zx10 fender brackets gave the fender a little bit more clearance too.

Oh, and remove or move the horn when you drop the frt end, because the fender will drive it right into your rad, and can potentially rub or poke a hole in the rad.
Threeaded links are worth every cent, as you do not need to suspend the bike, and remove bolts to adjust it. Additionally you can drop it fractions of an inch at atime, rather than 1" at a time, which is especially nice for fine adjustments and balancing the ride height with an extended arm.
Cheaper link can be had for reasonable $
Soupy' are likely the cheapest, but very stout.

Lowered bikes even at stock wheelbase are much less wheelie prone...an extra 1" does make that much difference... :P

gwad that sounded like DR Ruth! LOL
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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 07:50 PM        
using a strap around town will cause a pretty good tank slapper, right?
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posted February 03, 2009 07:56 PM        
I have been told it can... I haven't ran a strap on the street, imagin having no suspension to absorb a bumb while leaned over mid corner and the tire begins bouncing into a slapper...
UGLY!
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posted February 03, 2009 10:46 PM        Edited By: 01smokes on 4 Feb 2009 05:47
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I run mine 1" lowered always and then strap it down at the track which works good for me. But .5" will work too, just depends how low you want it.


do you still do alot of street riding on that same set up, or mostly track use??
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rACeRs


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posted February 03, 2009 11:35 PM        
I have been doing a lot of track riding, but when I want to go somewhere on it I have no problem taking it anywhere.
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Compton


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posted February 04, 2009 05:17 AM        
i have my forks lowered internally around 3 inches.
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eklipse636


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posted February 04, 2009 05:48 AM        
3''??? How do you keep from smashing your front fender???
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gots2bd


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posted February 04, 2009 05:58 AM        
Guys, thanks for all of the responses. I love this site! One more question, can I lower the bike myself or is this something the dealer should do? I'm pretty handy though. Does anyone have instrections?
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Bawls


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posted February 04, 2009 06:36 AM        
Check out shanes build thread. I had never seen it done and I figured it out on my own. All you have to do is look at the dog bones on yout suspension and figure out how to take the two bolts out. The only problems that I have out of my bike is bumping the front fender when I act like an idiot and the wheelie that I'm on doesn't sit down gradually, or sometimes you'll bump the tab on your oil pan on speed bumps if you aren't paying attention. If you put a strap on your bike, You'll see why you shouldn't use it on the street. A wheelie at the track causes a tank slapper of another kind (you'll know what I mean soon enough) and I'm not talking about the handlebars lol. As for lowering the front... be careful when you do it. I've known people who loosened both sides off and the front forks slid through until the front was sitting on the fender lol. Invest in a vernier caliper so that you can ensure that you got your front forks the same.
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kawasakijockey


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posted February 04, 2009 07:03 AM        
If you are hitting your fender pretty hard street riding you can tune the suspension a bit to help deter it. Stiffen the preload on the springs, turn in more compression damping, and turn out more rebound. Preload and compression are obvious but the reason you would take rebound out is compaction time. For instance if you hit a bump and the fork compresses and rebounds too slow another bump will drive the fender up even higher. On my bike I found trouble when braking on rough pavement. I put a little more preload and compression in it and it seems ok now at 1.25inch.
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posted February 04, 2009 07:11 AM        
Hey racers what power are you putting down?
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