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posted May 22, 2009 11:15 AM        
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posted May 22, 2009 12:55 PM        
I rode in a new Dodge 2500 (3/4 ton) today. P.O.S! They need to go back to the design before this latest!

FORD 250 (3/4 Ton) is the way to go
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posted May 22, 2009 01:01 PM        
Who's kirk and who's spock?
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posted May 22, 2009 01:15 PM        
My mom's truck, she wants to sleep with like minded people, like Comrade Ted.
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posted May 22, 2009 01:29 PM        
Appears to be a typical California truck.

Only thing i see missing is a Ghey rights decal, but the "got rights" and "hate is never a family value" decals are close enough.
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posted May 22, 2009 05:47 PM        
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My mommie has an endless supply of that.

Did she stop giving it to you?
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posted May 22, 2009 10:17 PM        
let's talk about dodge dealers!
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posted May 22, 2009 10:31 PM        
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let's talk about dodge dealers!


or "EX" Dodge dealers
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posted May 23, 2009 06:47 AM        
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Kaz I'm so with you on the UAW. Not even Biden the union lover can save their criminal bosses now.

As soon as Ford washes its hands of the union I'll buy one too(if Obama allows me a job in the US). Note I said that, a Ford for me when the union fat cat bosses dissappear.

Until then I'll continue to by foreign vehicles built on Amereican soil



What a bunch of double talk. You speak of how great Ford is for building cars in Mexico which outsourced American jobs.

Now you worry about your job being outsourced and you blame it on Obama? What the fuck!

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Set back and enjoy the ride to 3rd world wages and working conditions.
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posted May 23, 2009 08:08 AM        Edited By: SteveWFL on 23 May 2009 17:32
"Now you worry about your job being outsourced and you blame it on Obama?" <---you're right, I've been considering companies offering to take Americans with them overseas (such as IBM).

Its getting tough trying to work here with Obama/Biden waging war against our corporations and so many pulling out!

At least Ford went to Mexico under BILL CLINTON's NAFTA plan when Clinton sold us out to China, Canada, and Mexico.

Now, see? The Democrats were right?

Obama is sending the rest of the jobs overseas obviously with his attack on corporations doing business here. Some of us may have to cross water just to work



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posted May 23, 2009 10:32 AM        
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posted May 23, 2009 08:49 PM        Edited By: dubious on 24 May 2009 03:49
Steve, I think youd dink a donkey... come on man....
Stal,
the 6.4 is an absolute pig on fuel... I drive them at some of the sites I contract to.
10 mpg.... I get that pulling 20,000 lbs with 36 " rubber at 80 mph all day...

The ford 6.4 is tough as nails, but an absolute pig and GUTLESS at the same time.
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posted May 24, 2009 10:11 AM        
I dunno Lyle, I had a 26,000 + lb trailer behind my little 6.4 and it pulled REALLY hard! I only used full throttle once and that was to make a light on a pretty steep hill at 60 mph. With the removal of the Diesel Particulate Filter I understand people are seeing a 20%+ mileage increase. That filter is a power robbing PIG and it's on ALL of the 2008 and later trucks of ALL brands. Thanks EPA, you suck.
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posted May 24, 2009 05:31 PM        
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I dunno Lyle, I had a 26,000 + lb trailer behind my little 6.4 and it pulled REALLY hard! I only used full throttle once and that was to make a light on a pretty steep hill at 60 mph. With the removal of the Diesel Particulate Filter I understand people are seeing a 20%+ mileage increase. That filter is a power robbing PIG and it's on ALL of the 2008 and later trucks of ALL brands. Thanks EPA, you suck.



LOL welcome to my industry LOL

People just don't understand that there is a difference between emissions and fuel economy
The reality of the diesel DPF system is that over the life of the truck its overall polpution output is somewhere near 2001 levels LOL

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posted May 24, 2009 06:21 PM        
Ain't that the truth, we burn extra fuel for no overall gain in reduced emissions. Can you imagine what these engines would do with no EGR and DPFs.

Sticky just stopped by the trailer park, he didn't seem too impressed by momma's lack of teef . . . .
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posted May 24, 2009 07:23 PM        
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"Now you worry about your job being outsourced and you blame it on Obama?" <---you're right, I've been considering companies offering to take Americans with them overseas (such as IBM).

Its getting tough trying to work here with Obama/Biden waging war against our corporations and so many pulling out!

At least Ford went to Mexico under BILL CLINTON's NAFTA plan when Clinton sold us out to China, Canada, and Mexico.

Now, see? The Democrats were right?

Obama is sending the rest of the jobs overseas obviously with his attack on corporations doing business here. Some of us may have to cross water just to work





You say they pay high wages so why not get a job with Toyota?

Maybe rethink that option,Toyota s planning on building their cars in Japan.

Construction of the new plant at Tupola is on indefinite hold.

The plant at Princeton IN. is rumored to be on the chopping block.

Read the WSJ article here: WSJ


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posted May 24, 2009 08:32 PM        
OZZY,

My point has been before Obama was elected ALL businesses will pull out of the USA.

I suspect the American plants of Honda, BMW, Nissan, Hyundai, and the others will follow Ford, GM (China) and Toyota's lead.

I also said LONG before Obama was elected for any of us to work we may be moving overseas too, and I was getting a passport (which I now have). Maybe I need to dig up some old threads.

IBM is offering Americans with Business and Management degrees jobs overseas now that are being terminated in the US, Argentina is attractive.

But I also predicted the union bosses will fall on their crooked faces at the expense of their employees, that is happening faster than I thought.


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posted May 24, 2009 11:30 PM        
Yup, lets tax businesses more so they MUST go overseas to get properly treated. Corporations pay no tax directly, they pass that cost to the consumer. Tax them too much and they either fail, products are too expensive, or they go to a place where they have lower overhead (labor +taxes). Ireland is a nice place they have 10% taxes and a skilled labor force . . .

Sticks n Stones a nice guy, but watch out, he's REALLY big! I was worried he roast and eat my mom's chiwawas on the spot as a snack. He made our trailer creak as he walked around!
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posted May 25, 2009 08:06 AM        
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Yup, lets tax businesses more so they MUST go overseas to get properly treated. Corporations pay no tax directly, they pass that cost to the consumer. Tax them too much and they either fail, products are too expensive, or they go to a place where they have lower overhead (labor +taxes). Ireland is a nice place they have 10% taxes and a skilled labor force . . .

Sticks n Stones a nice guy, but watch out, he's REALLY big! I was worried he roast and eat my mom's chiwawas on the spot as a snack. He made our trailer creak as he walked around!


Yes sir, businesses are being forced overseas as the current administration makes it unattractive to do business here
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posted May 25, 2009 05:55 PM        
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OZZY,

My point has been before Obama was elected ALL businesses will pull out of the USA.

I suspect the American plants of Honda, BMW, Nissan, Hyundai, and the others will follow Ford, GM (China) and Toyota's lead.

I also said LONG before Obama was elected for any of us to work we may be moving overseas too, and I was getting a passport (which I now have). Maybe I need to dig up some old threads.

IBM is offering Americans with Business and Management degrees jobs overseas now that are being terminated in the US, Argentina is attractive.

But I also predicted the union bosses will fall on their crooked faces at the expense of their employees, that is happening faster than I thought.




Yes you blamed it on Bill too. I don't remember you blaming either of the G.Bush's though.

It was in this thread you mention "if Obama will LET you have a job".

Please explain how the economy or the nation can continue to function if all businesses pull out of the US?




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posted May 25, 2009 07:24 PM        
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Sticks n Stones a nice guy, but watch out, he's REALLY big! I was worried he roast and eat my mom's chiwawas on the spot as a snack. He made our trailer creak as he walked around!


Back off big boy, you aint exactly cinderella yourself! But for the record, that wasnt your trailer creaker, I think it was the dogs under the trailer that got pinned when the leaf springs compressed. I told you that ya gotta put them cement blocks under your bumpers!
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posted May 25, 2009 07:29 PM        Edited By: Stalwart on 26 May 2009 02:31
I didn't mean FAT, I mean BIG! I thought you be MUCH fatter there must be quite a lot of muscle under the insulation we BOTH carry. No doubt about it, I wear by beer around my middle!

Yeah, we used up the last of our cinder blocks for mama's Pinto, I gotta go find me some for the trailer.
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posted May 25, 2009 08:56 PM        Edited By: SteveWFL on 26 May 2009 04:03
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OZZY,

My point has been before Obama was elected ALL businesses will pull out of the USA.

I suspect the American plants of Honda, BMW, Nissan, Hyundai, and the others will follow Ford, GM (China) and Toyota's lead.

I also said LONG before Obama was elected for any of us to work we may be moving overseas too, and I was getting a passport (which I now have). Maybe I need to dig up some old threads.

IBM is offering Americans with Business and Management degrees jobs overseas now that are being terminated in the US, Argentina is attractive.

But I also predicted the union bosses will fall on their crooked faces at the expense of their employees, that is happening faster than I thought.




Yes you blamed it on Bill too. I don't remember you blaming either of the G.Bush's though.

It was in this thread you mention "if Obama will LET you have a job".

Please explain how the economy or the nation can continue to function if all businesses pull out of the US?



It won't! Thats everyone's point. Obama, through deficit and increased corporate tax, is taking this ship down!
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posted May 28, 2009 05:39 PM        
I have worked at several dealerships over the years, and this guy is full of shit about being stuck with new vehicle inventory. Ever heard the old sales ploy BUY AT DEALER INVOICE for two days only. And then wonder how or better yet Why, these people who try to sneek a little fuckin in anywhere they can, ie document fee, dealer prep, hazardous material charge, shop fee, ect. ect .
Would or could sell at their cost? Maybe they found Jesus and got a conscience? Doubt it , dealer invoice is a myth. The new cars at a dealership are not owned by anyone but the manufacturer . the price the dealer pays changes constantly , depending on how long the models been out, when the new ones coming out , if the new one has changed, or the manufacturer realizes it has made a turd and people are figuring it out . Otherwise how would the dealer give YOU a Rebate on a car you purchase that they bought 8mos ago for XXXX amount. Trust me its all bullshit feelgood money.
A dealer invoice does kind of exist, its in a big blue metal Rolodex in General Managers office, but only 1 or 2 head pricks know how to decode it ,if it comes to them looking at that they will also call and check if any other dealer incentives that the customer never knows about exist .
Dont feel sorry for this prick he goes belly up dodge will come and get these units. and most of the parts inventory he speaks of is the same way, why do you think they have basic stock on hand. and have to order most thing usually being able to get it from another dealer because its closer than Detroit, because none of them own it, their just the middle man that pinches your bag and still makes a $20 off you. Not to mention all this poor mans used inventory which he does own and showed someone $5000.00 trade in value, but really only put $50.00 cost in the vehicle ,and then sold it to some other poor bastard for $3500.00 , oh yeah plus documents fees disposal fee, and any thing else they can get warranty, lifetime oil change for $20 program,
Just like the motorcycle dealers that carry four or five different names , its GREED thats all .
Feel sorry for him if you want but he wont think of us after filing bankruptcy , sipping that $40 a shot burbon on his private beach, as im sure its a corporation and is protected . You want to know how much of this is true go in your local dealer bike or car, pick a carry over unit and make them a ridiculous no insulting offer, they'll say no , but them show it to them, cash works best, but writing them a check and tearing it up works just as well , then leave , you wont make it to your car. Someone will chase you down , you might not get it for your offer but the is a spot somewhere far below "dealer invoice" . You might be buying that car/bike after all.

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posted May 28, 2009 06:24 PM        
wow damn, all I didn't like about dodge was the union bosses ass-raping them, and dodge allowing it
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