posted May 18, 2013 12:35 PM
Edited By: Y2KZX12R on 18 May 2013 20:37
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quote: 270+ hp combo,
adams said bullshitt
quote:You can buy inflated dyno numbers if you want, but we want ET. All I know is Leonidas never made over 300 and we all know it was the fastest all motor bike at the time. And no zx14 is making 270+ We need these dyno these people use our zx14 would make 300 and the busa grudge bikes would make 360.
I'll tell you what.......
I have customers with zx-14's that will race any zx14 all motor. The same goes for my busa customers, they will race anyone, anyone, with an all motor busa.
It can easily be arranged.
And if you want to talk nitrous or turbos? I have a busa customer that will race any nitrous or turbo busa or gsxr1000 or zx14 in the country. Again...... He will race any all motor nitrous or turbo busa or zx-14 or gsxr-1000.
Bring your best carpenter motor to the table. Bring your best adams or whom ever's motor to the table...... They dont care who built it or whos head is on the bike. They WILL race you.
Any takers please email me at Jim@competitioncnc.com and I will put you in contact with the appropriate person (motorcycle with inflated hp numbers) to race.
But be warned, none of these guys will race for free or for $1000.... and they don't take American Express.
240 with only drop ins and head work sound cost effective. How much for this set up if you do it, and how much if we do it ourself with your pistons,tbs, head, cams, and specs?
how much can be sprayed with this set-up?
+1 we wanna know prices
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quote:You can buy inflated dyno numbers if you want, but we want ET. All I know is Leonidas never made over 300 and we all know it was the fastest all motor bike at the time. And no zx14 is making 270+ We need these dyno these people use our zx14 would make 300 and the busa grudge bikes would make 360.
I'll tell you what.......
I have customers with zx-14's that will race any zx14 all motor. The same goes for my busa customers, they will race anyone, anyone, with an all motor busa.
It can easily be arranged.
And if you want to talk nitrous or turbos? I have a busa customer that will race any nitrous or turbo busa or gsxr1000 or zx14 in the country. Again...... He will race any all motor nitrous or turbo busa or zx-14 or gsxr-1000.
Bring your best carpenter motor to the table. Bring your best adams or whom ever's motor to the table...... They dont care who built it or whos head is on the bike. They WILL race you.
Any takers please email me at Jim@competitioncnc.com and I will put you in contact with the appropriate person (motorcycle with inflated hp numbers) to race.
But be warned, none of these guys will race for free or for $1000.... and they don't take American Express.
posted May 18, 2013 07:14 PM
I got my money on Adams Performance. Well not much money though I'm a broke azz mf'er
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posted May 20, 2013 02:14 PM
JIMS HPWR I Have seen the numbers Jim is talking about and I can assure you that it is NOT bullshit. One more thing Jims motors live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't forget this guy was building land speed motors that were running for miles at a time with 1696 motors. For the people that don't know Jim, he is not just a builder like all the other shops. Jim is a machinist and his work is top notch. The only way the other shops will catch up to Jim is by copying his work like they have already tried to do. Any all motor anything out there we can dyno on the same dyno and pour out of the same can, and this goes for anybody or any shop and video tape it so everyone can see how sad your faces are when Jims so called "bullshit" dyno numbers become a reality for you.
posted May 20, 2013 03:16 PM
WOW!!! I really like show and tell, or in this case, tell and then show. Nothing better than a good old-fashion shootout, to see who's the best rod slinger around. I'll be looking forward to see if this thing gets traction.
posted May 20, 2013 08:04 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 21 May 2013 07:35
To Hell with Dyno #s!
If you know anything about racing; you understand the above statement.
This doesn't need to turn nasty.
Adams has proven himself by setting records in class racing and dominating Grudge Racing.
If anything, Adams is doing Jim a favor by even Entertaining this back and forth with Jim.... The Adam's videos speaks for themselves, and the numbers jims "shop bike" ran with slick and slider with Rickey Gadson riding speaks for them themselves 8.13 E/T (can be found on pychobike.com)
I have nothing against Jim, and I think he is a great machinist that makes quality parts.
Adams is a rider, builder, tuner and machinist; which puts him in a totally different class than Jim.
I only think we will see a show down if Jim and Adams agree to build and tune a bike(s) from start to finish themselves and race with like weight jockeys or ride the bikes themselves. There are class races and grudge events for that.
Adams has been at the track tuning and standing behind his products and riding what he has created himself for years; and winning and setting records... You can't take that away from a man with some internet yap yap...
Spend your $$$$ wisely, and good luck,
BlackIce Performance
By the way:
Adams Performance bikes "live!!!!!!!!!!!!" I have an Adams tuned bike with over 14000 miles on it that is raced on average once or more a week year round. It has Never died or has been opened up for repairs. Some bikes have built in life spans that depend on how aggressive you want to be with your package. I am sure Jim will tell you that.
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posted May 21, 2013 02:34 PM
hpwr Since you mentioned that Jims 14 went 8.13 with Rickey on it lets tell the WHOLE story. When Rickey went 8.13 on Jims 14 that was the FIRST time ever seeing a race track. Rickey went a 8.13 with a 1.32 sixty and the bike still went 171MPH on motor. Wait theres more.......The bike had the wrong gear on it hence the sixty but worse than that Jims 14 weighed 496lbs.!!!! Plus a 170lb. rider. Show me another 14 that weighs 670lbs. that will run that time the first time going down the track and go through in 4 gears. I'll wait. Look, I am not disputing the fact that Colby has some fast stuff. But truth be told a lot of it is with spray. Now on another note, let me ask a question....If Jeremy Teasley was not strapped to those machines how much slower would they be?????? Just askin.
posted May 21, 2013 05:24 PM
spend your money with who you feel comfortable with. jims head and cam combos work plain and simple. they are on some of the fastest grudge bikes out there right now. jims work isnt cheap but good parts never are. i just switched from a big valve head(not going to say whos) to jims stage3 big valve head. pretty happy with the results. picked up 3- 4 mph in the 1/8 first time out and i know theres more left in it.
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posted May 21, 2013 09:48 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 22 May 2013 06:14
quote:Since you mentioned that Jims 14 went 8.13 with Rickey on it lets tell the WHOLE story. When Rickey went 8.13 on Jims 14 that was the FIRST time ever seeing a race track. Rickey went a 8.13 with a 1.32 sixty and the bike still went 171MPH on motor. Wait theres more.......The bike had the wrong gear on it hence the sixty but worse than that Jims 14 weighed 496lbs.!!!! Plus a 170lb. rider. Show me another 14 that weighs 670lbs. that will run that time the first time going down the track and go through in 4 gears. I'll wait. Look, I am not disputing the fact that Colby has some fast stuff. But truth be told a lot of it is with spray. Now on another note, let me ask a question....If Jeremy Teasley was not strapped to those machines how much slower would they be?????? Just askin.
You made my point for me...
Jim is not on Coby's level, if you know what hp a bike makes and you know your chassis set-up, an average builder/tune knows what gearing they should take to the track. Rickey has beat Teasley many times on equal bikes. If you are implying the bike don't perform due to Rickey riding, you are crazy.
1.32 sixty, with a slider and Flat Slick is do do. Guys go 1.25 and quicker on hand clutches on street tires.
171mph is ok, but no big deal. mph is tricky, most good racers' bad passes yield their fastest mph.
Going through the 1/4 in 4th gear shows Jim has no idea how to set-up a drag bike.
"I am not disputing the fact that Coby has some fast stuff. But truth be told a lot of it is with spray."
The above statement you made is proof, you have no idea of what Coby is capable of.
Without a question, Cody would have set that same bike up at the track and made Jims 8.13 look sloooow.
Due to the fact Coby knows what he is doing. And builds and sale complete packages that perform on the highest level.
You asked and I answered...
Now, on a more civil note, Jim is a great machinist. This is a fact. Motorcycles is only a small part of what he does.(Coby does much more than motorcycles also).
Jim products are high quality. Jim doesn't make everything he sales.
Jim is an asset to the performance motorcycle industry .
Instead of pitting these two talented guys against each other, I would like to see them work together and see what Monster E/Ts they could put down.
Jim should have never made the negative statement about Coby's craftsmanship in regards to how Cody creates his heads. Due to the fact that there are countless true statement Coby could make about Jim's Craftsmanship, his inability to build something fast and get it down the track quickly, how Jim hasn't achieved any where near what Coby has in the motorcycle performance industry. FACTS!
Jim,
I regret been the one to point out your short comings, as I see them, as we all have them.
I sincerely respect your talents.
If I had a chance to test your products and achieved out standing results with them, I would report my finding unbiasedly.
BlackIce Performance
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posted May 22, 2013 04:52 AM
i didnt see where Jim downed cobys heads. he just stated they were hand ported vs CNC. as far as jims shop bike being slow. you have to remember that bike wasnt built to be a drag bike. its a LSR bike. both are quality shops. really couldnt go wrong with either. but as of right now Jims heads and cam combos are on the fastest grudge bikes out there right now. the question is who has an Adams package that will step up and run some of Jims customers? no disrespect to Adams but just seems like he lost focus on the bikes for a few years and Jim filled that void.like i said spend your money with who you feel comfortable with.
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posted May 22, 2013 09:19 AM
I do understand that Jim's bike with Rickey on it wasnt set up for the drag strip. I'm sure it will run some damn good numbers with the proper gearing and weight pulled off it.
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posted May 22, 2013 09:20 AM
But I know Cobys bikes run damn good set up for the strip.
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posted May 22, 2013 12:42 PM
hpwr Your right I did ask a question but I am still waiting for an answer. So let me get this right. You are bashing Jim because he went to the track for the first pass and the gear was wrong????lmao. Did you ever think that just maybe he went to the track on very short notice from Rickey. So he brought the bike the way it was. Wow!! Your are right about one thing the 60 was some crap. Like I said due to the gearing. So how fast would it have gone with the right gearing, the right 60, and Teasley on it. Safe to say easily 7.90's with Rickey and probably low 7.80's with Teasley. This is with a 496lb. bike that he rides around with a full charging system, water, and at the time had stock wheels.
posted May 22, 2013 12:48 PM
head work I just reread your post and noticed that you mentioned about Jim's short comings and how he shouldn't have made the statement about Colby's heads. Well who REALLY did Leo's head. Just askin again?? I know the real answer do you??
posted May 22, 2013 06:25 PM
I have never used either builders but it was stated that CNC bike was mainly built for LSR. How did it do in LSR? I remember reading where Ricky G rode it and went 217 @ Loring in a mile and half. Did it ever go faster and was this with the big 1570?
posted May 22, 2013 07:02 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 23 May 2013 03:52
quote:Your right I did ask a question but I am still waiting for an answer. So let me get this right. You are bashing Jim because he went to the track for the first pass and the gear was wrong????lmao. Did you ever think that just maybe he went to the track on very short notice from Rickey. So he brought the bike the way it was. Wow!! Your are right about one thing the 60 was some crap. Like I said due to the gearing. So how fast would it have gone with the right gearing, the right 60, and Teasley on it. Safe to say easily 7.90's with Rickey and probably low 7.80's with Teasley. This is with a 496lb. bike that he rides around with a full charging system, water, and at the time had stock wheels.
"So how fast would it have gone with the right gearing, "
How fast would it have gone with the right builder and tuner as competent as Adams building it and setting it up?
Answer: Much Faster!
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quote:I have never used either builders but it was stated that CNC bike was mainly built for LSR. How did it do in LSR? I remember reading where Ricky G rode it and went 217 @ Loring in a mile and half. Did it ever go faster and was this with the big 1570?
The engine failed during the LSR run.
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posted May 22, 2013 07:25 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 23 May 2013 03:34
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posted May 22, 2013 07:31 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 23 May 2013 03:55
quote:I highly respect both companies and owners but Jim is the one I'm going to get to build the NA14 when the time comes to step up and go fast NA. I just feel so much more comfortable speaking with Jim and I've even gone over and met Coby face to face. Nothing wrong with Coby Adams. Don't read that into what I'm saying. Jim is just such a gentleman when speaking with you on the phone and that means something to me. Thhe 254 horsepower he got out of Ricky Gadsons bike that gained 20+ horsepower over Adams setup didn't hurt either.
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quote:The 254 horsepower he got out of Ricky Gadsons bike that gained 20+ horsepower over Adams setup didn't hurt either.
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I disagree, it did hurt, Rickey Gadson, when the engine failed and Rickey hit the wall!
Jim still seems pretty proud of that 254hp Bike
quote:254? That was 3 years ago.
2 years ago we broke into the 270's with the zx14.
Were in the 280's now all motor. 1570cc 3x5 revving to 12,600.....
1696 cc busas making 315 and 1734 cc busas making 332+
Theirs plenty of places to go if you want to make big power with nitrous or a turbo.
But only one place to go for extreme grudge all motor power.
That motor build off on psycho bike never did happen last year. We were stoked to compete in that. All the builders were all talk at first but then the big names kept coming up with some excuse or another as to why it wouldn't be fair etc.etc. etc. Whatever.
I'm thinking of selling our shop bike soon. I'm just not going to have any time this year to use it.
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posted May 22, 2013 07:47 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 23 May 2013 03:58
quote:I just reread your post and noticed that you mentioned about Jim's short comings and how he shouldn't have made the statement about Colby's heads. Well who REALLY did Leo's head. Just askin again?? I know the real answer do you??
Watch, Listen, and Learn,
The Owner of "Leo" tells you, at the end of the video, who is responsible for the performance of "Leo".
Jim listed the Hoe as one of the his bikes
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