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Bishopzx12


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posted October 17, 2012 12:22 PM        
Nitrous what fuel/How would you spray

Hey guys I have a question and im curious to see what you guys would tune your bike for as well as how would you spray your bike. I am having nitrous installed on my bike. I am not sure how much I will spray but it will be between a 30-60 shot based on what we see on the dyno. I have the MPS spyder kit and will be using a NOS nitrous controller. I plan to use the WOT feature. I have a two part question.

What would you tune for?
I will use a minimum of 93 octane in the tank but think I may want to tune for Pump 110 oct. This fuel is available at a local gas station at the pump. My tuner say that 110 oct at the pump is really not that good but I think it still should have some good attributes when it come to using nitrous and additional timing while on motor. I talked to Schnitz racing and they say c16 is great for nitrous however with a shot as small as a 30-60 he thinks I would see more HP out of a 93 or 110 oct. I know form my experince the extra added oct is added safety precaution. I will either be using the power commander 5 ignition module or the MSD SB6 for timing adjustments. I think with the extra added timing I can get some more HP out of the 93/110 on motor as well as may not have to take out as much timing while on the spray.

How would you spray?
I plan on using the WOT feature of the nitrous controller. Outside of the toggle switch that just activate the nitrous system I was wondering would you let that WOT be the activation switch signaling the controller to spray and to step through its ramping functions I have set. Or would you have a double activation such as WOT signal and then hit the starter button to signal the controller to start the spray and step through the ramping sequence I have set

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kawasakijockey


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posted October 17, 2012 12:26 PM        
30 shot pump gas. 60 shot c12 at least to be safe.
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joseph702


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posted October 17, 2012 01:41 PM        
Maybe u might get more hp but c12 is safe , it's very costly to burn up a motor. I'd run 60 with c12 u will be happy .

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quick6


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posted October 17, 2012 01:43 PM        
under a 50 i would use mrx01. anything bigger use c16. wot is what i use to activate mine.
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Bishopzx12


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posted October 17, 2012 02:24 PM        Edited By: Bishopzx12 on 18 Oct 2012 05:02
Cool i have about 4 gallons left of C16. How do you think c16 will act on a stock 14r motor wiht some added timing.

Also how do you guys feel about Q16 and nitrous


quote:
under a 50 i would use mrx01. anything bigger use c16. wot is what i use to activate mine.


So no starter button at use at all. Just flip the toggle switch to arm the NOS system then once you hit WOT let the controller do the rest..

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posted October 17, 2012 09:04 PM        
quote:
30 shot pump gas. 60 shot c12 at least to be safe.[/quote

This.
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Bishopzx12


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posted October 18, 2012 05:14 AM        
It seem like most of the guys here like C12 for nitrous any suggestion while on motor. Though I know it almost impossible to have the best of both worlds I plan to run the bike on both nitrous and motor utilizing the Power commander V map swapping capability. This is why I asked this question. I know oxygenated fuels have been proven to make real good power on motor hence is why I lean toward the Q16. It is 116 oct vs. C16’s 117 oct..
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Bishopzx12


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posted October 18, 2012 05:36 AM        
Talked to VP they seem to suggest the Q16
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osr


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posted October 18, 2012 05:36 AM        
we have ran q16 for 2 years spraying some pretty healthy shots - no problems at all -- i even run it on motor and dyno wise picked up 5hp over 87 pump. that doesn't seem to be the norm but thats what mine did and it runs some pretty good numbers for what it is.
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Bishopzx12


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posted October 18, 2012 05:54 AM        
quote:
we have ran q16 for 2 years spraying some pretty healthy shots - no problems at all -- i even run it on motor and dyno wise picked up 5hp over 87 pump. that doesn't seem to be the norm but thats what mine did and it runs some pretty good numbers for what it is.


Thanks the information i was looking for. I figure it had to be good on nitrous becasue of the extra added octane but also figure it would run good on motor becasue of the added oxgen than oxgenated fuels have such as the MR12 and MR9 fuels. look like im about to become a VP whore i gor MR9, MR12, C16, and about to buy a can of Q16 in my garage, SMH
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