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posted June 30, 2012 05:28 AM
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i can see why wee always win
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZufBF8ipFc&feature=g-vrec
IF I WAS IN THAT VID i think i'd have to hurt the camera person ..
i don't think i've ever had a .500 tree .. even when cross talk fukks me up
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posted June 30, 2012 05:42 AM
and i'm sure this mudder is dead by now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsKlsABsEL8&feature=related suxs to be stupid
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posted June 30, 2012 05:49 AM
Maybe if that fella would stop poundind the throttle when hes staging he could focus on RT.
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posted June 30, 2012 06:09 AM
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Maybe if that fella would stop poundind the throttle when hes staging he could focus on RT.
I don't think he was worried about rt. I've never seen a turbo bike with a 2 step. I find that hard to do bc turbo. Ike's are tricky to launch.
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posted June 30, 2012 06:41 AM
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Maybe if that fella would stop poundind the throttle when hes staging he could focus on RT.
I don't think he was worried about rt. I've never seen a turbo bike with a 2 step. I find that hard to do bc turbo. Ike's are tricky to launch.
my busa has a 2 step now ... don't know if i'm gonna use it but its there
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posted June 30, 2012 07:12 AM
Edited By: KZScott on 30 Jun 2012 15:13
my 12 has a 2 step, talk about super spool the turbo :O
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posted June 30, 2012 10:03 AM
bad, a two-step is the only way to go with a Turbo. If you set the RPMs at 4000 then open the throttle wide open it will build boost like crazy. More than you need, I assume you adjust the boost by how much you open the throttle.
You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
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posted June 30, 2012 12:10 PM
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You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
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posted June 30, 2012 12:17 PM
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You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
Ken
i'm coming to bust that ass wit my streetbike
you were 30 miles away from Dallas Raceway last weekend with that turbie.
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posted June 30, 2012 12:23 PM
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You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
Ken
i'm coming to bust that ass wit my streetbike
you were 30 miles away from Dallas Raceway last weekend with that turbie.
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posted June 30, 2012 12:44 PM
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bad, a two-step is the only way to go with a Turbo. If you set the RPMs at 4000 then open the throttle wide open it will build boost like crazy. More than you need, I assume you adjust the boost by how much you open the throttle.
You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
Ken
I was thinking with the two step it would just fall on its face unless the two step was set ate high rpm...
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posted June 30, 2012 01:09 PM
Edited By: RICH CRAFT 1 on 30 Jun 2012 21:18
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bad, a two-step is the only way to go with a Turbo. If you set the RPMs at 4000 then open the throttle wide open it will build boost like crazy. More than you need, I assume you adjust the boost by how much you open the throttle.
You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
Ken
I was thinking with the two step it would just fall on its face unless the two step was set ate high rpm...
actually what the Turbo wants is for you to open the front door and let the air in LOL somewhat like when you're doing a cranking compression. If you open the throttle wide open. It will crank about 10 or 15 pounds more. the old-school guys would rack the throttle back and forth to build the boost up, when the two-step come along. It allowed the turbo guys to open the throttle up and build boost without all the back-and-forth RPMs. I've never had a turbo, but a friend of mine showed me one night at the starting line. The two-step was own about three or 4000 as he opened the throttle up. The boost gauge went to about 10 or 12 pounds of boost. When you let the clutch out on that, all kinds of stuff will start happening. LOL
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posted June 30, 2012 01:47 PM
The turbo has to work off of engine load to make enough exhaust pressure and volume to turn the turbo's rotating assembly with enough force to build intake pressure. The only thing I can see with a two step would be a jump start on throttle position, unless some of what seems to be exhaust ignitions are spooling the turbo up(that pop in the pipe). All of this would depend on turbo size, controller setup, etc, to work right. The old way of throttle pumping was necessary to keep the bigger turbos at "ready rpm" to start boost. There was a lot of lag time in the turbo systems back then. I have seen T. Kizer run world record passes on test and tune nights in Houston back in the late 80's with only a handful of people watching him, a 7.01 at 188mph was witnessed by me on his old GS. He would beat that throttle like a prison punk..
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posted June 30, 2012 02:17 PM
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The boost gauge went to about 10 or 12 pounds of boost. When you let the clutch out on that, all kinds of stuff will start happening. LOL
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posted June 30, 2012 04:33 PM
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The boost gauge went to about 10 or 12 pounds of boost. When you let the clutch out on that, all kinds of stuff will start happening. LOL
Ken
scary shit
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posted June 30, 2012 06:09 PM
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The turbo has to work off of engine load to make enough exhaust pressure and volume to turn the turbo's rotating assembly with enough force to build intake pressure. The only thing I can see with a two step would be a jump start on throttle position, unless some of what seems to be exhaust ignitions are spooling the turbo up(that pop in the pipe). All of this would depend on turbo size, controller setup, etc, to work right. The old way of throttle pumping was necessary to keep the bigger turbos at "ready rpm" to start boost. There was a lot of lag time in the turbo systems back then. I have seen T. Kizer run world record passes on test and tune nights in Houston back in the late 80's with only a handful of people watching him, a 7.01 at 188mph was witnessed by me on his old GS. He would beat that throttle like a prison punk..
putting a turbo on a 2 step works. period. i have first hand expirience with 3 bikes. you can rev a motor to 10k and build a few psi, or rev it to half that on a 2 step and build 2-3 times as much boost. it works great! 
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posted June 30, 2012 06:56 PM
Always crying!! SMH.............
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posted June 30, 2012 06:59 PM
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The turbo has to work off of engine load to make enough exhaust pressure and volume to turn the turbo's rotating assembly with enough force to build intake pressure. The only thing I can see with a two step would be a jump start on throttle position, unless some of what seems to be exhaust ignitions are spooling the turbo up(that pop in the pipe). All of this would depend on turbo size, controller setup, etc, to work right. The old way of throttle pumping was necessary to keep the bigger turbos at "ready rpm" to start boost. There was a lot of lag time in the turbo systems back then. I have seen T. Kizer run world record passes on test and tune nights in Houston back in the late 80's with only a handful of people watching him, a 7.01 at 188mph was witnessed by me on his old GS. He would beat that throttle like a prison punk..
putting a turbo on a 2 step works. period. i have first hand expirience with 3 bikes. you can rev a motor to 10k and build a few psi, or rev it to half that on a 2 step and build 2-3 times as much boost. it works great!
Ken is right, the throttle blades are open and that means when the mixture does fire it is a pretty healthy bang for the turbine wheel.
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posted June 30, 2012 07:35 PM
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The turbo has to work off of engine load to make enough exhaust pressure and volume to turn the turbo's rotating assembly with enough force to build intake pressure. The only thing I can see with a two step would be a jump start on throttle position, unless some of what seems to be exhaust ignitions are spooling the turbo up(that pop in the pipe). All of this would depend on turbo size, controller setup, etc, to work right. The old way of throttle pumping was necessary to keep the bigger turbos at "ready rpm" to start boost. There was a lot of lag time in the turbo systems back then. I have seen T. Kizer run world record passes on test and tune nights in Houston back in the late 80's with only a handful of people watching him, a 7.01 at 188mph was witnessed by me on his old GS. He would beat that throttle like a prison punk..
putting a turbo on a 2 step works. period. i have first hand expirience with 3 bikes. you can rev a motor to 10k and build a few psi, or rev it to half that on a 2 step and build 2-3 times as much boost. it works great!
Ken is right, the throttle blades are open and that means when the mixture does fire it is a pretty healthy bang for the turbine wheel.
you try it 1st
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posted June 30, 2012 07:41 PM
Not me buddy..
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posted June 30, 2012 07:44 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 1 Jul 2012 03:45
the way i figure ..why do the nitrous guys ramp into the hit .. why not leave on a 2 step and full hit.. my boosted bikes with small turbo's are like an on/off switch
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posted July 01, 2012 04:39 AM
A little info on 2step and turbo launching.http://tunertools.com/articles/Launch-Control-101.asp
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posted July 01, 2012 04:57 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 1 Jul 2012 12:59
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A little info on 2step and turbo launching.http://tunertools.com/articles/Launch-Control-101.asp
it may work for cars with a roll cage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9CFJcg2ccE
but this what happens to turbo bike leaving WOT with no boost controller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2O-t0dqBmQ
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posted July 01, 2012 05:31 AM
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bad, a two-step is the only way to go with a Turbo. If you set the RPMs at 4000 then open the throttle wide open it will build boost like crazy. More than you need, I assume you adjust the boost by how much you open the throttle.
You need to bring that Turbo busa up here and find out what a stock ZX14 runs like with a little gas on it. not trying to embarrass you, but it is what it is. LOL
Ken
I was thinking with the two step it would just fall on its face unless the two step was set ate high rpm...
actually what the Turbo wants is for you to open the front door and let the air in LOL somewhat like when you're doing a cranking compression. If you open the throttle wide open. It will crank about 10 or 15 pounds more. the old-school guys would rack the throttle back and forth to build the boost up, when the two-step come along. It allowed the turbo guys to open the throttle up and build boost without all the back-and-forth RPMs. I've never had a turbo, but a friend of mine showed me one night at the starting line. The two-step was own about three or 4000 as he opened the throttle up. The boost gauge went to about 10 or 12 pounds of boost. When you let the clutch out on that, all kinds of stuff will start happening. LOL
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posted July 01, 2012 08:47 AM
A 2 step over time would bend the throttle blades in my Gen 1 Busa. You know when it starts to sound like its running on two cyclinders when idling they are bent. It will build boost and you will leave the line hard. If it's a streetbike I would not recomend it without getting some HD throttle plates. (I never did) also the airshift backfire will bend them also under boost. Not a big deal on a track bike but when you want your smooth idle streetbike with bent blades it will idle like a garbage truck. and you can't sync it out either.
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