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eklipse636


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posted June 03, 2012 05:54 AM        
On board compressor or compressed air?

This has been brought up almost as many times as the oil threads, but I want some opinions from the compressed air guys.

Sat my compressor went out (5 years old, and I accidentally left it on for about 5 min while driving down the road) but I was curious what all parts is needed to go to compressed air, or should I just stay with the on board compressor? I know it would only be $50 to replace the compressor.
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eklipse636


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posted June 03, 2012 06:05 AM        
Or I am looking at a bigger on board compressor, like ones used on cars/trucks that have air bags....
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posted June 03, 2012 06:16 AM        
What compressor were you using?
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eklipse636


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posted June 03, 2012 07:02 AM        
Mps mini, with open gears. Worked great for a long time to 150 psi.
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smokinstorm


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posted June 03, 2012 08:04 AM        
Mine just went out because we forgot and left the silly thing running during the pass and down the return road. Oops! I just bought another $10 DC tire pump, took the compressor out and we're back in business again. Not sure it'll last forever though but I can get all the compressors I want for 10 bucks or so each. Just a thought.
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Shane661


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posted June 03, 2012 08:07 AM        
Why not Co2?
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eklipse636


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posted June 03, 2012 08:30 AM        
smokinstorm, i tried a couple of those before i got the one from mps, i had horrible luck with them.

shane, thats what i have thought about. ive searched a little, but not sure what all i need. i know i need a co2 bottle (assuming paintball bottle will work) and a regulator. im not sure what type of regulator, guage, etc i need. cant find much info on it.
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kawasakijockey


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posted June 03, 2012 08:56 AM        
Done the co2 thing with nothing but pin valve troubles. Using nitrous now and will never go back. If you buy the cheapo compressors, make sure to get an extra to have at the track because they will fail.
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Shane661


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posted June 03, 2012 08:58 AM        
Dusty, ask Wee or Lee. They are using Co2 with a good valve and regulator setup...not the paintball stuff.

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posted June 03, 2012 09:18 AM        Edited By: Lucky14 on 3 Jun 2012 23:18
Wheelie and Lucky are running Nitrous, 'cause it is available at (all) drag strips, the place you are going to need it the most.

Keep a spare 1 lb bottle full and you are good to go.......


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indynic


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posted June 03, 2012 09:31 AM        
On board compressor is the way to go, especially if you have an arm that holds air. I think the MPS has a lifetime warranty if you have the receipt....

The only issue with co2/no2 is having to mount an additional bottle...assuming that you already have a no2 spray bottle mounted.

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posted June 03, 2012 10:02 AM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 4 Jun 2012 00:03
Either go with co2 or no2 ... Or go to walmart and get their cheapo air pump .. It the same thing MPS sells you but it's only 9 bucks at walmart ... Buy two for 18 bucks and you will have a spare ...
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codyc_13


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posted June 03, 2012 10:14 AM        
The best thing we have found is nitrogen, its expensive to get started, but once you have the bottles, regulators, hoses, ect. It doesn't cost much. It doesn't expand when it gets hot, no pin valves to worry about leaking. We use it in our tires also.
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smokinstorm


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posted June 03, 2012 10:15 AM        
quote:
Either go with co2 or no2 ... Or go to walmart and get their cheapo air pump .. It the same thing MPS sells you but it's only 9 bucks at walmart ... Buy two for 18 bucks and you will have a spare ...


Yep, that's exactly what I'm doing right now. ^^^^
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02zx12rbob


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posted June 03, 2012 11:44 AM        
1lb. Bottle with nitrous, works great.
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eklipse636


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posted June 03, 2012 11:49 AM        
So all I need is 2 1lb bottles and a regulator?
Where do I get the reg from?
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posted June 03, 2012 11:53 AM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 4 Jun 2012 02:05
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So all I need is 2 1lb bottles and a regulator?
Where do I get the reg from?
MPS uses paint ball stuff and it works but ok ,or better yet Carolina Cycle .. This is the reg i got from them , i think it much better than the MPS reg .. http://carolinacycle.net/en/shop-online/product/32-hi-pressure-adjustable-regulator



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posted June 03, 2012 12:05 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 4 Jun 2012 02:08
600+ shifts from a 24 OZ CO2 bottle or you can use a 2 or a 2 and a 1/2 pound N20 bottle ..You can also use the N20 for other things ...lol...




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Big_T112


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posted June 03, 2012 12:26 PM        
I had a 2.5lbs. bottle on my turbo bike and a dual reg. that I got from Schnitz. I ran the airshifter and the AMS1000 boost controller off of one bottle with zero trouble.
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posted June 03, 2012 03:07 PM        
nos lines more expensive but they don't pop or leak

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eklipse636


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posted June 03, 2012 10:45 PM        
Thanks lee. That's exactly what I was looking for. Now I will wait and see what I want to do...
I kinda don't want to switch because I have never had a problem until now, but would like so I didn't worry about it at all.
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posted June 04, 2012 06:23 AM        
I ran CO2 out of a 9 oz bottle. Carried a spare with me always. Never had any issues with them leaking on their own. I've also had an on-board compressor...I preferred the ease of use with the CO2. Less hassle IMO. I think any of the compressed gases are better than on-board pump. Just my .02
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posted July 01, 2012 12:53 PM        
Compressed gas.

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I ran CO2 out of a 9 oz bottle. Carried a spare with me always. Never had any issues with them leaking on their own. I've also had an on-board compressor...I preferred the ease of use with the CO2. Less hassle IMO. I think any of the compressed gases are better than on-board pump. Just my .02




I get a lot more shifts out of a bottle of NOS with my air shifter. CO2 tanks are always empty. Way fewer shifts...

I concur with the statement above. Compressed gas is better.
Loose a race due to a bad cheap ass pump? ( I know I just rubbed someone wrong - sorry)
Really?

16000 on a new bike and you cannot afford NOS?
Give your head a shake.

My 2 cents.

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posted July 01, 2012 01:07 PM        
i use paintball tanks and regulate it down to 150
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eklipse636


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posted July 01, 2012 01:11 PM        
I ended uP going with another on Board compressor. If it fails, I have It so ican pump I up with another compressor.
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