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CraZX14


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posted May 18, 2012 01:19 PM        
Crazy's Flys Go Bye-Bye!

Pulled the secondaries on the 14R. HA! I'm surprised this much fun hasn't been outlawed yet Given that I'm still at stock wheelbase, it is fun that demands considerable respect though. But aside from the extra boost in the lower range, you'd never know anything was different - still rides, idles, and sounds the same. Just some 411 for anyone thinking about doing it . . .
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posted May 18, 2012 02:33 PM        
I can imagine.....I know it made a HUGE diff on my first gen. I bet that 14R has the low end thrust from hell now
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CraZX14


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posted May 18, 2012 03:32 PM        
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I can imagine.....I know it made a HUGE diff on my first gen. I bet that 14R has the low end thrust from hell now


I think pulling 'em makes a bigger difference on the Gen1 - my '06 was a night and day change below 6k rpm. But without a doubt, the 14R gives a really clear wake up call in the lower gears sans flys.
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posted May 18, 2012 05:21 PM        
What did the "operation" involve in terms of removal of parts, time, aggravation, etc.......?

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posted May 18, 2012 06:02 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 19 May 2012 01:02
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What did the "operation" involve in terms of removal of parts, time, aggravation, etc.......?

I have done so many i have a zipper on them .. I can install a PC and pull the flies in 3 hours start to finish with a smoke break and a root beer .. I can do the Gen 1 a little faster , about two hours with a smoke break and a soda ..lol.. If you have never done it , it will take you a Sat or Sunday to do it ... Just don't rush it , take your time ..
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CraZX14


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posted May 18, 2012 09:28 PM        
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What did the "operation" involve in terms of removal of parts, time, aggravation, etc.......?

I have done so many i have a zipper on them .. I can install a PC and pull the flies in 3 hours start to finish with a smoke break and a root beer .. I can do the Gen 1 a little faster , about two hours with a smoke break and a soda ..lol.. If you have never done it , it will take you a Sat or Sunday to do it ... Just don't rush it , take your time ..


Yeah, Lee's the man so what he said! However, I had mine pulled from a performance shop. I'm ok with a wrench, but I stripped a screw on the Gen 1 when trying to remove them myself - maybe I didn't heat the screws up enough or have the optimal screwdriver - regardless, I ended up putting it back together and bringing it to the shop (Sims). So this time around, I decided to let Sims do it again. If I was more mechanically inclined, I would have tried it again myself. Oh well, now I just have to worry about staying on the bull
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posted May 18, 2012 09:28 PM        
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Pulled the secondaries on the 14R. HA! I'm surprised this much fun hasn't been outlawed yet Given that I'm still at stock wheelbase, it is fun that demands considerable respect though. But aside from the extra boost in the lower range, you'd never know anything was different - still rides, idles, and sounds the same. Just some 411 for anyone thinking about doing it . . .


Sooo...PCV not needed?
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posted May 18, 2012 09:43 PM        
I know that the PCV isn't "needed" with just an exhaust on the 14R, and (at least with Brock's), the same mapping is used with flys in/out. So logic would lead me to believe that yes, you can get away with it. However, I do have a PCV and have had it since the exhaust swap, but the guys on here that ran 'before and after' will tell you the bike runs smoother / better with a PCV.
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posted May 20, 2012 11:01 AM        
That's nice to know...When I test rode the new 14r I thought the low end (4,000 rpm and lower) would be huge but I was disappointed...Good to know it's just the flys.
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posted May 20, 2012 12:19 PM        
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That's nice to know...When I test rode the new 14r I thought the low end (4,000 rpm and lower) would be huge but I was disappointed...Good to know it's just the flys.


Yep,14....14R.... Both make a big difference with flys out in the low range.
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posted May 20, 2012 02:33 PM        
I know everyone says use a #2 screwdriver, but another option I used was a number 1 with the tip ground down so the end was flat and it fit like it was made for those screws.
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posted May 20, 2012 02:38 PM        
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That's nice to know...When I test rode the new 14r I thought the low end (4,000 rpm and lower) would be huge but I was disappointed...Good to know it's just the flys.


Yep,14....14R.... Both make a big difference with flys out in the low range.
Can i say it ? please please , pretty please ...?

Ok i'll say it anyway .... I TOLD YOU SO ...lol
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posted May 20, 2012 02:40 PM        
Crap! I thought we were going to be able to skip the 'fly removal on the '12. I reckon not. All righty, then: 'flies and ECU reflash left to do.
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posted May 20, 2012 05:06 PM        
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That's nice to know...When I test rode the new 14r I thought the low end (4,000 rpm and lower) would be huge but I was disappointed...Good to know it's just the flys.


Yep,14....14R.... Both make a big difference with flys out in the low range.
Can i say it ? please please , pretty please ...?

Ok i'll say it anyway .... I TOLD YOU SO ...lol


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CraZX14


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posted May 20, 2012 05:13 PM        
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Crap! I thought we were going to be able to skip the 'fly removal on the '12. I reckon not. All righty, then: 'flies and ECU reflash left to do.


With the potential for the bike to go into "protection mode", removing them on the 2012 is more important than ever for those of us classified as performance junkies
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posted May 21, 2012 12:49 AM        
All this talk of flies has got me curious.

Essentially it boils down to this.

Is there any reason I wouldnt want to remove my flies?

Unless the answer is somethign I have to worry about the next question is how to I do it? Or should I get my mechanic to do it at the 6000Km service, due in a week or two

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posted May 21, 2012 01:29 PM        
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I know everyone says use a #2 screwdriver, but another option I used was a number 1 with the tip ground down so the end was flat and it fit like it was made for those screws.


use a JIS screwdriver....not a phillips

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posted May 21, 2012 03:38 PM        
Crazy when r u going back to track.
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posted May 21, 2012 03:54 PM        
just pulled mine, crazy throttle response now. the screws came out very easy also. i geuss ill have to slip into another track somewhere to see if it helps.
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posted May 21, 2012 04:44 PM        
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Crazy when r u going back to track.


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posted May 24, 2012 03:19 AM        
Crazy have you had any issue, glitches or error codes with the 14R since pulling the flys and no doubt getting some miles on her in that configuration?

I'm so tempted to pull the trigger and get my flys removed too but don't want to run into a fault.

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posted May 24, 2012 05:46 AM        
Yep, I'm pulling mine. Am I also to understand adding a TRE008, in addition to removing the 'flies, will kill the "protection mode" for the R? Or is it one or the other?
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posted May 24, 2012 06:01 AM        
Have you experienced a significant difference in fuel economy since you have pulled your flies?
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CraZX14


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posted May 24, 2012 09:59 AM        
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Crazy have you had any issue, glitches or error codes with the 14R since pulling the flys and no doubt getting some miles on her in that configuration?

I'm so tempted to pull the trigger and get my flys removed too but don't want to run into a fault.

Greggy[/quote

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Have you experienced a significant difference in fuel economy since you have pulled your flies?


No issues, glitches, codes, etc. Just don't bend the bar they're attached to and you should have no problems.

I haven't ridden enough with them out to tell about the mpg.


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posted May 24, 2012 12:40 PM        
Anyone clsoe to the SC area that may pull mine when i get it
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