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posted May 05, 2012 05:48 AM        
hayabusa shock

I think I have seen where some guys runs the busa shock on there 14 is this a good upgrade or not ?

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posted May 05, 2012 08:23 AM        
just the spring.
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posted May 05, 2012 08:39 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 5 May 2012 15:41
no i've got the whole shock.. but i had to beat in the bottom of the tank to get it to fit .. yes its a great upgrade to that junky shock KHI sells ESPECIALLY IF YOUR A HEAVY WEIGHT IMHO
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posted May 05, 2012 08:43 AM        

1bad is the only one I know of that has run the complete shock and that involved a hammer on the bottom of the gas tank ...................

The 08 and up Busa spring will fit on the 14 / 14R shock. It is a lot stiffer and is good for bigger riders and/or stretched bikes.


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posted May 05, 2012 11:54 AM        
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The 08 and up Busa spring will fit on the 14 / 14R shock. It is a lot stiffer and is good for bigger riders and/or stretched bikes.




Tried this too BEFORE I PUT THE WHOLE SHOCK ON.... and that POS Kawasaki shock has no rebound to stop the busa spring what so ever.. instant unload on a stretched bike with a big rider...


In fact try this .. both shocks with no spring and rebound all the way in ..press shock to bottom out and lay on floor and watch them retrack back to full.. and time them .. then report back your findings
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posted May 05, 2012 04:27 PM        
yea im 270 and the bike has blocks on it
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posted May 05, 2012 05:08 PM        
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yea im 270 and the bike has blocks on it

What's blocks???

Your best bet is going to send your stock shock off to be revalved and put a heavier spring on it. It's the best/cheapest way to go (unless you want to beat in your gas tank)
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posted May 05, 2012 06:06 PM        
Swing arm extensions 4 to 9.5 prolly sittin at 8 over

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posted May 05, 2012 06:06 PM        
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yea im 270 and the bike has blocks on it

What's blocks???

Your best bet is going to send your stock shock off to be revalved and put a heavier spring on it. It's the best/cheapest way to go (unless you want to beat in your gas tank)



or you can cut the reservior off the busa shock ..tap in a high pressure hose and put the reservior on the side of the bike..
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posted May 05, 2012 06:07 PM        
On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?
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posted May 05, 2012 06:15 PM        
I tired the Busa Gen 2 spring on my 14 shock. It was WAY TOO STIFF. I weigh 150 without leathers. The bike would pogo off the line every time. Took the spring back off, sent the shock off to have revalved and now doesn't pogo at all. I might have been better off with a Gen 1 Busa spring instead of the Gen 2, but I like the revalved shock better anyway.
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posted May 05, 2012 06:21 PM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts
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posted May 05, 2012 06:29 PM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


The reservoir is not the issue...to me...the damping circuits are why I would buy any drag shock. I am just wondering how hot that oil could get in 1/4 mile?

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posted May 05, 2012 06:41 PM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


The reservoir is not the issue...to me...the damping circuits are why I would buy any drag shock. I am just wondering how hot that oil could get in 1/4 mile?

Shane


well tap a temperature gauge into your shock and find out ... I'll wait on results..

I KNOW people that turned water cool bikes into air cool all in pursuit of lighter weight.. never caring about how hot the engine gets ...
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posted May 05, 2012 08:19 PM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase

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posted May 05, 2012 09:32 PM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


The reservoir is not the issue...to me...the damping circuits are why I would buy any drag shock. I am just wondering how hot that oil could get in 1/4 mile?

Shane
I wouldnt think so either but my Penske 8975 with no reservoir does fade some when hot lapping. Penske said it wouldnt but it indeed does.
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posted May 06, 2012 12:59 AM        

Shane


well tap a temperature gauge into your shock and find out ... I'll wait on results..

I KNOW people that turned water cool bikes into air cool all in pursuit of lighter weight.. never caring about how hot the engine gets ...


what? That is crazy. The zx 14 gets hot in like 10 minutes just idleing. lol.

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posted May 06, 2012 05:16 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 May 2012 12:17
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Shane


well tap a temperature gauge into your shock and find out ... I'll wait on results..

I KNOW people that turned water cool bikes into air cool all in pursuit of lighter weight.. never caring about how hot the engine gets ...


what? That is crazy. The zx 14 gets hot in like 10 minutes just idleing. lol.


load run time is 4 seconds .. idle/ burnout time is 15 seconds ...
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posted May 06, 2012 05:21 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 May 2012 12:25
quote:
quote:
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase



my busa shock with beated in tank does 1.38's to 1.41's 60 ft's a 1.44 is a bad 60ft for my bike .. my shock cost 100.00 my tank off ebay was 60.00 with shipping... and i love them outlaw with speed bumps and all
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posted May 06, 2012 05:25 AM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase



my busa shock with beated in tank does 1.38's to 1.41's 60 ft's a 1.44 is a bad 60ft for my bike .. my shock cost 100.00 my tank off ebay was 60.00 with shipping


Ya on a preped track, you wouldn't come close to a 1.38 on the track I'm talking about. 1.35's is what I did on a preped track. Everyone at the track I'm talking about with good shocks shorten there bikes to 62 inches or less for this event or they can't leave without spinning I ran at 67 1/2 inches.

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posted May 06, 2012 05:44 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 May 2012 13:07
quote:
quote:
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quote:
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase



my busa shock with beated in tank does 1.38's to 1.41's 60 ft's a 1.44 is a bad 60ft for my bike .. my shock cost 100.00 my tank off ebay was 60.00 with shipping


Ya on a preped track, you wouldn't come close to a 1.38 on the track I'm talking about. 1.35's is what I did on a preped track. Everyone at the track I'm talking about with good shocks shorten there bikes to 62 inches or less for this event or they can't leave without spinning I ran at 67 1/2 inches.


yada yada yada .. some of the tracks i go to have launching ramps and speed bumps in the lane and home made traction compound with hand written time slips .. and i run the same numbers at them as at a prepped track.. the track i ran on last weekend was known as the dirt road .. the 1 before that was the ice skating ring .. another the oil down strip.. i'm not saying i've got a better set-up than a 2000.00 shock ...but what i got ain't worth buying the 2,000.00 shock for me ..
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posted May 06, 2012 06:10 AM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase



my busa shock with beated in tank does 1.38's to 1.41's 60 ft's a 1.44 is a bad 60ft for my bike .. my shock cost 100.00 my tank off ebay was 60.00 with shipping


Ya on a preped track, you wouldn't come close to a 1.38 on the track I'm talking about. 1.35's is what I did on a preped track. Everyone at the track I'm talking about with good shocks shorten there bikes to 62 inches or less for this event or they can't leave without spinning I ran at 67 1/2 inches.


yada yada yada .. some of the tracks i go to have launching ramps and speed bumps in the lane and home made traction compound with hand written time slips .. and i run the same numbers at them as at a prepped track.. the track i ran on last weekend was known as the dirt road .. the 1 before that was the ice skating ring .. another the oil down strip


There you go home made traction compound, this has nothing and no cars run there ever, there's no rubber down either and to top it off when the harleys oil the track they don't even clean it up. guys that run mid 5's 1/8th mile on good tracks run 6.0's here if there lucky. If you where closer I would bet you 1000.00 you could not go a 1.30 anything 60 foot, not going to happen on this track

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posted May 06, 2012 06:19 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 May 2012 13:24
quote:
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quote:
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase



my busa shock with beated in tank does 1.38's to 1.41's 60 ft's a 1.44 is a bad 60ft for my bike .. my shock cost 100.00 my tank off ebay was 60.00 with shipping


Ya on a preped track, you wouldn't come close to a 1.38 on the track I'm talking about. 1.35's is what I did on a preped track. Everyone at the track I'm talking about with good shocks shorten there bikes to 62 inches or less for this event or they can't leave without spinning I ran at 67 1/2 inches.


yada yada yada .. some of the tracks i go to have launching ramps and speed bumps in the lane and home made traction compound with hand written time slips .. and i run the same numbers at them as at a prepped track.. the track i ran on last weekend was known as the dirt road .. the 1 before that was the ice skating ring .. another the oil down strip


There you go home made traction compound, this has nothing and no cars run there ever, there's no rubber down either and to top it off when the harleys oil the track they don't even clean it up. guys that run mid 5's 1/8th mile on good tracks run 6.0's here if there lucky. If you where closer I would bet you 1000.00 you could not go a 1.30 anything 60 foot, not going to happen on this track



well i'd buy a hondamatic just for that track and leave soft if its as bad as you say... i ain't stupid

the homemade traction compound was nothing more than DR Pepper syrup
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posted May 06, 2012 06:29 AM        
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On a drag bike do you even need a reservoir?



then why do y'all buy 2000.00 brock ohlin shocks with side mounted reservoirs .


why not just use struts


And I will say my 2000.00 brocks ohlins shock with the side mount reservoir worked great and would 1.44 60 foot on an outlaw track with no rubber or prep so basically a street race with timing equipment at 67 1/2 inch wheelbase



my busa shock with beated in tank does 1.38's to 1.41's 60 ft's a 1.44 is a bad 60ft for my bike .. my shock cost 100.00 my tank off ebay was 60.00 with shipping


Ya on a preped track, you wouldn't come close to a 1.38 on the track I'm talking about. 1.35's is what I did on a preped track. Everyone at the track I'm talking about with good shocks shorten there bikes to 62 inches or less for this event or they can't leave without spinning I ran at 67 1/2 inches.


yada yada yada .. some of the tracks i go to have launching ramps and speed bumps in the lane and home made traction compound with hand written time slips .. and i run the same numbers at them as at a prepped track.. the track i ran on last weekend was known as the dirt road .. the 1 before that was the ice skating ring .. another the oil down strip


There you go home made traction compound, this has nothing and no cars run there ever, there's no rubber down either and to top it off when the harleys oil the track they don't even clean it up. guys that run mid 5's 1/8th mile on good tracks run 6.0's here if there lucky. If you where closer I would bet you 1000.00 you could not go a 1.30 anything 60 foot, not going to happen on this track



well i'd buy a hondamatic just for that track and leave soft if its as bad as you say... i ain't stupid

the homemade traction compound was nothing more than DR Pepper syrup


And what good would that do you, not going many rds on a hondamatic when it's a heads up race for 1000.00 to win. they do run a 7.50 index class as well but guessing you would not be that fast on one either.

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posted May 06, 2012 08:16 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 6 May 2012 15:18
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And what good would that do you, not going many rds on a hondamatic when it's a heads up race for 1000.00 to win. they do run a 7.50 index class as well but guessing you would not be that fast on one either.



as bad as you make that track sound .. i don't think any of y'all would get down the track .. must less run heads up .. fastest guy don't always win
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