JZX
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posted March 12, 2012 01:00 PM
Yeah ^^ , or take it back, you bought a lemmon.
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smokinstorm
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posted March 12, 2012 01:38 PM
Edited By: smokinstorm on 12 Mar 2012 21:39
Those look like average 2006-2011 ZX14 numbers to me. What's your bike run at the track. I think that might be a better number to look at because your dyno numbers are off by about 25 if one can believe all the other dyno numbers that have been posted. If those numbers are legit you really don't want to see the dyno sheet I got on my 2009 14.
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cruiserman_83
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posted March 12, 2012 01:44 PM
If an 07 busa did 147, sounds bout right. As son as I get my PCV and tune, ill dyno mine in brisbane and let you know. First with zero map, then after custom tune. Got 5500km on mine, so should be a be interesting. The guy tuning it runs his own dragbike and was technical manager for dynojet in oz. he should know what he is doing.
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Shane661
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posted March 12, 2012 01:48 PM
I'm just curious as to why people don't read?
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Wheelie
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posted March 12, 2012 02:03 PM
quote: I'm just curious as to why people don't read?
what? lol
wee
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Famous1
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posted March 12, 2012 02:09 PM
quote: I'm just curious as to why people don't read?
True.... Been looking at this thread shaking my head.... So his bike with just slip ons registers 1.5 hp of piped(akropovik) tuned BMW and he thinks something is wrong with it.... SMH..
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Hayabusa14
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posted March 12, 2012 02:11 PM
I think Shane is talking about the TC not being turned off. lol
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Famous1
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posted March 12, 2012 02:15 PM
quote: I think Shane is talking about the TC not being turned off. lol
WELL....that too...
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Shane661
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posted March 12, 2012 02:20 PM
quote: I think Shane is talking about the TC not being turned off. lol
That, and the false notion that the outside air conditions have made a huge difference. That is why dyno's have correction factors. I like to help people, but sometimes I just have to shake my head and admit defeat, lol.
Shane
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biggmoinc
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posted March 12, 2012 02:55 PM
quote: I'm just curious as to why people don't read?[/quote
Lol, I know right, missed ur whole argument, its like running these new bikes in c or b mode instead of a, lol
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cruiserman_83
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posted March 12, 2012 05:05 PM
I agree. 174hp @ 13000rpm or 173 @ 95000, I know what id prefer.....
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mathews
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posted March 12, 2012 05:48 PM
quote: I agree. 174hp @ 13000rpm or 173 @ 95000, I know what id prefer.....
13000<95000.Also 400lbs <600lbs
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Famous1
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posted March 12, 2012 05:55 PM
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quote: I agree. 174hp @ 13000rpm or 173 @ 95000, I know what id prefer.....
13000<95000.Also 400lbs <600lbs
120ft/lbs > 80ft/lbs.
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Shane661
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posted March 12, 2012 06:24 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Mar 2012 02:30
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quote: I agree. 174hp @ 13000rpm or 173 @ 95000, I know what id prefer.....
13000<95000.Also 400lbs <600lbs
Uhhh...this thead is like the valley of the retarded...no offense to the retarded.
Simple minds, who don't read, or understand the basics....I give up.
See you at the track....
Shane
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mathews
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posted March 12, 2012 06:32 PM
Retarded,I am not the one who said 95000 rpm
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MJ
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posted March 12, 2012 11:58 PM
quote:
quote:
quote: I agree. 174hp @ 13000rpm or 173 @ 95000, I know what id prefer.....
13000<95000.Also 400lbs <600lbs
Uhhh...this thead is like the valley of the retarded...no offense to the retarded.
Simple minds, who don't read, or understand the basics....I give up.
See you at the track....
Shane
Shane you feel invisible sometimes?
Some of us still pay attention though
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MJ
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posted March 13, 2012 12:01 AM
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quote: BMW really did do an original busa number on the competition.
lol, yep... they hyped the shit out of it and it doesn't perform as advertised.
You have a point there . The beemer sure seems to perform on a dyno though
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Ninja Rider
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posted March 13, 2012 02:28 AM
During a recent test by Motorrad magazine they found that a standard ZZR 1400 beats the BMW 1000 in horsepower (206 hp vs 197hp at the crank) and has a slight advantage in acceleration (0 - 125 mph). This was tested and written by a (renown) German magazine which has shown a bias towards BMW for several years...........
NR.
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Famous1
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posted March 13, 2012 05:08 AM
quote:
quote: I agree. 174hp @ 13000rpm or 173 @ 95000, I know what id prefer.....
13000<95000.Also 400lbs <600lbs
120ft/lbs > 80ft/lbs.
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zx996
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posted March 13, 2012 07:26 AM
I would have agree on the TC being the problem cause Your numbers are way off of everybody else.its not just one or two getting the over 190 figure but everybody is.so either yours is a dud or the TC really makes a difference
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Greggy
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posted March 13, 2012 04:08 PM
The 2011 ZX-10R also had his TC still switched on as well - he's a mate of mine and we both 'forgot' to turn TC off amongst the 'excitement'. His HP numbers would be likely increased as well, but wouldn't that be to a point above what a 10R can really produce on a dyno?
Oh well I'll have to go and get another dyno run done soon with TC off and get back to you all. If the numbers are still crap maybe I'll sell my (lemon) 14R and get another one
Greggy
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MJ
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posted March 13, 2012 06:24 PM
Greggy your dyno post has gone viral. I've seen it on all kinds of other forums, including the BMW S1000R forum. Everybody thinks the new 14R is weak compared to the beemer and ZX10. Get another chart up pronto with that tc off man! lol
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Oz Booster
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posted March 13, 2012 09:31 PM
Not wrong there, i heard if from a busa guy here in the eastern states well before Greggy posted it , when i read the post i thought ' Oh it was yours"
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Greggy
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posted March 13, 2012 09:59 PM
Hahaha - you gotta love the Internet
Well if the BMW guys are saying the ZX-14R is "weak", with a BMW S1000RR with a PCV and Akrapovic system making only 2 HP more than an (almost stock) ZX-14R then I don't know why they would be happy about that. Not unless a tuned BMW S1000RR with an Akrapovic pipe actually makes less HP than a stock S1000RR which I would find VERY hard to believe,
Tranction Control (mode 1) was definitely left on for my bike's dyno runs (I rang the dyno operator to confirm this) so if you guys are sure the TC system has culled some HP then theres really nothing for anyone to worry about, and a re-run with TC off should provide a more accurate figure.
Also, if I was a Busa owner I wouldn't be quoting this forum post... as a Gen 2 Busa only made 147HP on the same day.
Greggy
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1990 ZX-10 Ninja - Megacycle stainless steel mufflers - gear-sack rack - tinted screen.
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MJ
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posted March 13, 2012 11:53 PM
Here's the BMW thread if anyone wants to read it http://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/bmw-s1000rr-general-discussion/11923-pretty-much-norm-2012-s1kr-puts-down-more-rwhp-than-zx10-14r.html its not a complete 14 bash, a couple of the guys actually don't believe the dyno runs for the 14 were accurate either
Most folks seem to understand deep down that this time kawi finally grew a set and did make another legend, in a long line of legend makers
Thanks kawi for stepping up and doing what I thought you'd never do again
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