JSmooth
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posted October 25, 2011 10:48 AM
The New ZX14 vs 2008-10 ZX14
MMMMMM I think I will keep my 2009 and be satisfied with it, for those that have the money to go and get the new one please do so I would really like to see them on the road or even hear about the HP gains. Then I would like to see if the new motor can fit into the older models. I have heard and read all the posting on the 2012 ZX14 and I am liking what I am hearing with the exception of some of the not necessary mods that Kaw thought to add for some un-GODLY reason. Other than that as long as we keep beating up on the BUSA I am fine with the 2009 I have. Now on another note you all know what the BOOSA BAN Whiners are going to say "It took Kawasaki 3 Gen to get it right". I for one thought we had it right back in 2006 then again in 2008 and now, we just keep raising the bar for them to look at with awwwwwwe!!! Well thanks Kawasaki for making something else that I can take pride into owning!!!! My 2009 ZX14 and now the 2012 ZX14. Also special thanks to Ricky G, and Brock for being great pioneers in our sport you have both made a impact on me and others. SMOKINZX14 go ahead and get you one so I can watch you rip on YouTube and Shane I am waiting on you as well to post another outstanding play by play thread on the new 14. Either way I like what I am hearing and to those that have the 2006-2010 just keep beating the Boosa's.
  
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Rajun Cajun
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posted October 25, 2011 11:15 AM
JSmooth....you are talking like you are after my own heart! I am a hottrodder at heart and I love the concept of putting large displaced engine into a smaller body/frame! I would love to have the new ZX14R's engine in my 06 candy thunder blue Kaw!
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JSmooth
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posted October 25, 2011 11:36 AM
I am also thinking about the way the economy is and going. My thought process is quite simple lets drop the old motor and add the new, from what I have been reading there are a couple or welds that are made a bit stiffer in places and the same in others. However I am still trying to get to the shop and get some measurement and see if this is possible, especially if I can save myself about 10,000 and just buy the motor. Others here may have some deep pockets but I for one do not, and yes I do tinker a bit with bikes and try to add this to that. I have a buddy of mine that converted a 96 CBR 900RR and dropped in the XXX BlackBird what are your thoughts on that. Where I am from you will get caught with your pants down running up on a 750 with 1000 motor or more you never know. So yes I am researching now on what I can do with this motor in my 2009.
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JZX
Zone Head
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posted October 25, 2011 11:38 AM
Geared correctly bolt-on vs bolt-on, the ZX12 did it back in 2000-and I "ran down" so called "pros" with it.
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Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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Master
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If it ain't fast it aint me
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posted October 26, 2011 08:05 AM
thers a reason they stoped making the zx12 and zx 14 got upgraded.
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ryn0cer0s
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Rider for Life
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posted October 26, 2011 08:02 PM
I cant remember where, but I heard the frame is a little narrower than the 2011 frame. That would make for more difficult installation. I was thinking the same thing, i dont want to get rid of my 2010, nor drop 15000 on a new one, but i would love the new engine. Keep us posted when you do find out
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2010 Candy Persimmon Red ZX-14
Brock's Ceramic coated Alien Head full exhaust
PCV, SpeedoHealer, lowered
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01smokes
Needs a job
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posted October 26, 2011 10:40 PM
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thers a reason they stoped making the zx12 and zx 14 got upgraded.
To keep up with the MIGHTY GEN2!!!
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BobC
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posted October 26, 2011 11:47 PM
quote:
I am also thinking about the way the economy is and going...................
Then it's your patriotic duty to stimulate the economy by buying a new bike. 
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Stock wheelbase
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2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
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Fatsix
Parking Attendant
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posted November 06, 2011 03:59 AM
I'm trying to get an idea of what I am going to need. Are big boy mods needed on the new 14r? Like lowered pegs and upgraded rear spring? I'm 6,4 and weigh 210 unsuited and trying to go lower.
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Shane661
Needs a life
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posted November 06, 2011 05:25 AM
quote:
MMMMMM I think I will keep my 2009 and be satisfied with it, for those that have the money to go and get the new one please do so I would really like to see them on the road or even hear about the HP gains. Then I would like to see if the new motor can fit into the older models. I have heard and read all the posting on the 2012 ZX14 and I am liking what I am hearing with the exception of some of the not necessary mods that Kaw thought to add for some un-GODLY reason. Other than that as long as we keep beating up on the BUSA I am fine with the 2009 I have. Now on another note you all know what the BOOSA BAN Whiners are going to say "It took Kawasaki 3 Gen to get it right". I for one thought we had it right back in 2006 then again in 2008 and now, we just keep raising the bar for them to look at with awwwwwwe!!! Well thanks Kawasaki for making something else that I can take pride into owning!!!! My 2009 ZX14 and now the 2012 ZX14. Also special thanks to Ricky G, and Brock for being great pioneers in our sport you have both made a impact on me and others. SMOKINZX14 go ahead and get you one so I can watch you rip on YouTube and Shane I am waiting on you as well to post another outstanding play by play thread on the new 14. Either way I like what I am hearing and to those that have the 2006-2010 just keep beating the Boosa's.
I'm going to talk to the dealer this week. I would at least like to take a look. 
Shane
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epd345
Pro
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posted November 10, 2011 04:31 PM
Im loving the Green SE myself. Who knows!
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bigdtd
Needs a job
Interceptors
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posted November 11, 2011 06:20 AM
the only thing about a motor only swap is you would need the computer as well to take advantage of the traction control goodies. I don't know if they are incorporated into the injectors, lots of stuff to think about...
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bigdtd
Needs a job
Interceptors
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posted November 11, 2011 06:25 AM
personally for the money you could get your motor stroked with some headwork and good pistons and make some serious ponies
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Bigbore4
Zone Head
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posted November 11, 2011 07:39 AM
The factory just does a better job, and they do it cheaper
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JSmooth
Expert Class
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posted February 07, 2012 01:43 PM
If I were get the motor stroked and had the head work done how much would my gas mileage change? I am thinking of dropping a 1441 kit in my 09. What are the +/- to this? Also I am wondering why didn't Kawasaki make the new 14r ratio a 12.5:1?
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01smokes
Needs a job
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posted February 07, 2012 02:10 PM
quote:
If I were get the motor stroked and had the head work done how much would my gas mileage change? I am thinking of dropping a 1441 kit in my 09. What are the +/- to this? Also I am wondering why didn't Kawasaki make the new 14r ratio a 12.5:1?
what kind of mileage do you get now? and i doubt it would change, hell when i fif the turbo on my 06 the MPGs were still in the high 30s on e85
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kawa74
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posted February 08, 2012 12:09 AM
quote:
If I were get the motor stroked and had the head work done how much would my gas mileage change? I am thinking of dropping a 1441 kit in my 09. What are the +/- to this? Also I am wondering why didn't Kawasaki make the new 14r ratio a 12.5:1?
Khi did all the work for you, but built it on a Stronger platform ??
12.3 to 1 Forged pistons, 6 grams lighter
3 mm longer Rods, strong bolts, bigger on small and big ends,
Crank has 2 mm bigger mains
65 mm stroke, 4 mm increase
Oil squiters to cool and lub pistons
Deck is 4 mm taller to accomidate longer rods
Head has CNC'd combution chambers, not cast as before
Larger intake Valves, 33.4mm.. vs 33mm, hand finished ports,
Larger Exhuast Valves ...28.3mm = 175 cfm @ 28*,... vs ...27mm = 157 cfm @ 28*
Header is matched to HEAD flow , tapered from 1.5* to 1.68* into merge collector
Air filter flow 40% more
Better cooling , extra fan , bigger radiater
Self adjusting Cam chain tensioner
25 + HP increase
AND IT's WARRANTED
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Flame On
Needs a life
Fuel Air & Spark
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posted February 08, 2012 04:35 AM
Satisfied 06 customer . Every time I twist the throttle She still kicks better than new.
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06 ZX14
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