gilberjj
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posted November 20, 2009 01:55 PM
anybody using the power commander for their fuel kill?
At one point I had a quick shifter, but I sold it before I ever installed it. I've heard that you can use the pcIII as a air shifter fuel kill, so I wouldn't even have to buy a mps/cycle tek box. Is anybody using a pcIII with quickshifter software to do their fuel cutting duties?
  
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jarhead
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posted November 20, 2009 04:07 PM
We did this on my brothers bike and it worked well but I can't remember which port we ran the wire from on the back of the pc3. He ran the bike for two years and never had a problem with it.
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Compton
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posted November 20, 2009 05:18 PM
I am using it on my bike.
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gilberjj
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posted November 20, 2009 05:19 PM
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I am using it on my bike.
So all I need is the software? Or do I need to get another harness/wire?
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Compton
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posted November 20, 2009 05:26 PM
i had a few of the 9v plugs laying around and cut the end off, moved the wire to another pin and used that, loaded the software and i was set. works well
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posted November 20, 2009 08:50 PM
Can you go more into detail?
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posted November 21, 2009 09:11 PM
 Edited By: Halvefast on 22 Nov 2009 05:12
Here are the basics:
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Compton
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posted November 21, 2009 10:12 PM
mine is like above, only i used one relay. using the ground to trigger the relay for the solinoid for the airshift, and power commander.
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gilberjj
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posted March 03, 2010 11:29 AM
bump..... what kind of solinoid did you use?
I'm trying to make an air shifter cheap.....
So..........
If I want to use this with a 3.5oz co2 bottle, what parts do I need. I would prefer to not hack my harness. Can I use the mps or cycle tek harness and then just solder it to the 9v pciii connection? Should I just buy the mps or cycle tek kits minus bottle and box? I want to do this as easy and cheap as possible. Thanks for any help........ I'm what you call electronics illiterate.
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Shane661
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posted March 03, 2010 11:34 AM
You are going to need a regulator assembly for the bottle. I don't know where to get one, other than what Cycle-Tek sells.
Why don't you contact Matt at Cycle-Tek? Tell him you are on a budget and that you want to use your own kill setup. See what kind of advice/deal he offers you. Matt is a great guy, and a straight shooter. 
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posted March 03, 2010 03:16 PM
spencercycle had a deal on shifter kits, with and without the kill.
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Compton
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posted March 03, 2010 03:31 PM
for the 3.5oz bottle you will need a regulator
http://www.spencercycle.com/product_p/sp-2900.htm
one of these
http://www.spencercycle.com/product_p/sp-h304.htm
the correct cga fitting, some line and a ram. only wiring i "hacked" was for the horn button, which can be un-done easy.
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gilberjj
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posted March 03, 2010 04:00 PM
Edited By: gilberjj on 4 Mar 2010 00:04
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for the 3.5oz bottle you will need a regulator
http://www.spencercycle.com/product_p/sp-2900.htm
one of these
http://www.spencercycle.com/product_p/sp-h304.htm
the correct cga fitting, some line and a ram. only wiring i "hacked" was for the horn button, which can be un-done easy.
edit: n/m
So here's what I'm thinking for costs.....
3.5oz bottle........................................$20
regulator............................................$80
airshifter switch valve......................$45
line and fittings.................................$30
ram......................................................$45
orient express airshifter mount.....$40
anything else?
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Shane661
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posted March 03, 2010 04:04 PM
I suggest doing it the hard way and saving the $89. 
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gilberjj
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posted March 03, 2010 04:07 PM
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I suggest doing it the hard way and saving the $89.
Well the cycle tek kit is $425 shipped.
My calculations say I can do it this way for $260
Savings: $165
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Shane661
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posted March 03, 2010 04:13 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 4 Mar 2010 00:19
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I suggest doing it the hard way and saving the $89.
Well the cycle tek kit is $425 shipped.
My calculations say I can do it this way for $260
Savings: $165
More power to you, man!
You could get everything but the kill for probably $335 or less (from Cycle-Tek)...and the support. But that's your call!
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eklipse636
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posted March 03, 2010 04:41 PM
I paid $220 for my air shifter kit, minus the bottle. It's the "old style" air kill shifter. In 2 years it's NEVER missed a shift!!
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posted March 03, 2010 04:42 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 4 Mar 2010 00:44
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I paid $220 for my air shifter kit, minus the bottle. It's the "old style" air kill shifter. In 2 years it's NEVER missed a shift!!
Yeah, but you are cheap, selfish, and love to see other's starve.
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posted March 03, 2010 04:52 PM
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I paid $220 for my air shifter kit, minus the bottle. It's the "old style" air kill shifter. In 2 years it's NEVER missed a shift!!
Yeah, but you are cheap, selfish, and love to see other's starve.
Damn Dusty, word travels fast but I would have to debate the selfish part.
BTW Gilbjj...............I think you saved enough on your extensions to buy a nice airshifter kit. 
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Shane661
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posted March 03, 2010 04:56 PM
I just hate cheap fuckers who won't support the good guy's out there...but then again, I relish when they have issues and go slow. 
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posted March 03, 2010 06:10 PM
I had a cycle tek kit and when i switched to braided lines and kill through the power commander only thing i used was the solinoid
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eklipse636
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posted March 03, 2010 07:07 PM
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I just hate cheap fuckers who won't support the good guy's out there...but then again, I relish when they have issues and go slow.
it's either be cheap or don't have it at all. I personally don't care for people that put multiple thousands of dollars into their bike and talk shit to the guys that do no have the money to do that with.
Trust me, if I had the money to buy a $800 muzzy shifter I would have it! But I don't. Also, why the fuck spend a extra $500 for a shifter like that when mine works every single time????
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gilberjj
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posted March 03, 2010 11:15 PM
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I paid $220 for my air shifter kit, minus the bottle. It's the "old style" air kill shifter. In 2 years it's NEVER missed a shift!!
Yeah, but you are cheap, selfish, and love to see other's starve.
Damn Dusty, word travels fast but I would have to debate the selfish part.
BTW Gilbjj...............I think you saved enough on your extensions to buy a nice airshifter kit.
You definitely hooked me up on the extensions!
I'm not saying that cycle tek or mps isn't good, it's just not as good of a deal as using the pciii. Time will tell what I will do.... I have to still get a trailer.
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posted March 04, 2010 02:53 AM
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Here are the basics:
is it the same for a pcv . and can it triggers from the shift light.. what is the signal of the quickshiter sensor????? i whant to use the horn button and/or use the shift light to kill the moto and ill preload the shifter with my foot(looking for a quickshift mode but cheap 
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posted March 04, 2010 07:03 AM
My regulator came from palmer-pursuit.com. I used it going on 4 years now with zero problems. You also might be able to get the 3.5oz bottles from them too.
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