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posted March 24, 2009 05:30 PM
Lookout "bruiser bike" market, new nakie bike coming
Race-inspired Italians to enter custom bruiser market? It looks that way
DUCATI ARE to launch a 1400cc muscle-bound street bruiser to challenge Harley-Davidson - that's the word on the street from Italy this morning.
Sources say the bike, which has been dubbed the Vyper, is already in running form and has started preliminary tests at the Bologna factory. They also say Ducati boss Claudio Domenicali has revealed the company is looking to branch out into a wider market.
It's reported the Vyper will feature a stroked version of the company's Testastretta engine, housed it Ducati's signature steel trellis frame. A 240-section rear tyre mounted in a beefy, hollow-section swingarm, is believed to also feature on the new machine.
Looks good to us!
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posted March 24, 2009 05:38 PM
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posted March 24, 2009 05:53 PM
Yeah, thats a great answer to the BKing and VMax bruisers too!
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posted March 24, 2009 05:55 PM
Looks like something from the cartoons or Sci-fi channel.
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posted March 24, 2009 05:57 PM
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Yeah, thats a great answer to the BKing and VMax bruisers too!
Any Vmax can be that , just ask the Vmax guys ...lol..
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posted March 24, 2009 06:25 PM
If you ask me, the newer big bikes are too showy. High performance is about sacrificing everything to opperate the machine at or near it's potential. The conditions the bike is designed to run under should completely dictate it's appearence. What are they trying to do, giving us this "Transformer " look? If the bike is high tech, it's high tech. Don't try so hard to make it LOOK like it's high tech.
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posted March 24, 2009 06:28 PM
rook, its 2009 and the VMax, Bking, and this thing have the look. Are you suggesting they look more "retro", like the 80's VMax?
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posted March 24, 2009 06:38 PM
poor bike never had a chance. theyre fucking it away with a 240 rear.
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posted March 24, 2009 06:49 PM
I heard the BKIng has a 200mm tire and its going to get bigger for new models too
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posted March 24, 2009 07:08 PM
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Yeah, thats a great answer to the BKing and VMax bruisers too!
Any Vmax can be that , just ask the Vmax guys ...lol..
watch it ...them Vmax guys gointg to kick your azz ..
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posted March 24, 2009 07:17 PM
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rook, its 2009 and the VMax, Bking, and this thing have the look. Are you suggesting they look more "retro", like the 80's VMax?
No. Perhaps "Transformer" was not a good analagy. Futuristic/gimmicky is better, maybe. I mean, the new bikes look like they are trying to reach into the future and be what all bikes might look like in 2025. That's all about appearence and it's hard for me to take seriously.
I'm pretty much a purist about asthetic design principles. A machine should be designed to do it's job first and the appearence that results is in perfect harmony with it's function. I am not comfortable with a machine that tries to look like something that it isn't. I want a machine to look good, but if a bike is just shaped to do what it is intended to do, it will look good and will look dignified.
I agree that trends in design have always been present. I just don't feel the futuristic hyperbike trend has much substance. Liter bikes are kind of raw looking but they look the way they should look to do their job and this in itself is quite a beautiful thing. I can't help but admire them despite their pointy, almost fragile appearence.
I didn't care for the grills on the 14 until I found that they do actually have a function. The tail on the old busa looks perfect but the new one is plain silly. The huge honking intake on the V-max looks like pure novelty.
Oh well, maybe I'll get used to the way things are in a couple years. We are supposed to have FUN on these things, anyway. I'd gladly ride any/all of them.
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posted March 24, 2009 07:58 PM
Edited By: dubious on 25 Mar 2009 03:59
200 and 240 tryres.....
its not the bruiser class.... its the poser class...
Any half-jackass knows those big balogna wheels slow it down...
That said I like the look, except the tupperware needs to be tossed for rizoma's!
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posted March 24, 2009 08:23 PM
Never be produced.......
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posted March 24, 2009 08:42 PM
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200 and 240 tryres.....
its not the bruiser class.... its the poser class...
Any half-jackass knows those big balogna wheels slow it down...
That said I like the look, except the tupperware needs to be tossed for rizoma's!
Yeah, the intention is to compete with the Harley fat tire bikes that are coming out. BKing and VMax are getting bigger wheels stock too.
the actual "240" size is pure speculation anyway according to the article
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Never be produced.......
it already has been, the bikes are going through their endurance tests and such and will be ran around undercover in camo dressing and such
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posted March 24, 2009 08:51 PM
...I say just put the ZX-14's engine in a ZRX-type platform w/bikini fairing, on-the-fly rider selectable traction control, slipper clutch, a simple 4-2-1 exhaust, digital speedo/analog tach w/shift light, make it handle in the curves with brutal straightline acceleration, reasonable sporty ergos (not sportbike ergos) and call it a day 
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posted March 24, 2009 08:52 PM
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...I say just put the ZX-14's engine in a ZRX-type platform w/bikini fairing, on-the-fly rider selectable traction control, slipper clutch, a simple 4-2-1 exhaust, digital speedo/analog tach w/shift light, make it handle in the curves with brutal straightline acceleration, reasonable sporty ergos (not sportbike ergos) and call it a day
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posted March 24, 2009 10:08 PM
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200 and 240 tryres.....
its not the bruiser class.... its the poser class...
Any half-jackass knows those big balogna wheels slow it down...
That said I like the look, except the tupperware needs to be tossed for rizoma's!
Yeah, the intention is to compete with the Harley fat tire bikes that are coming out. BKing and VMax are getting bigger wheels stock too.
the actual "240" size is pure speculation anyway according to the article
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Never be produced.......
it already has been, the bikes are going through their endurance tests and such and will be ran around undercover in camo dressing and such
Then somebody at Duc needs a headcheck..........maybe HD bought them when they got MV......
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posted March 25, 2009 04:17 AM
quote:
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200 and 240 tryres.....
its not the bruiser class.... its the poser class...
Any half-jackass knows those big balogna wheels slow it down...
That said I like the look, except the tupperware needs to be tossed for rizoma's!
Yeah, the intention is to compete with the Harley fat tire bikes that are coming out. BKing and VMax are getting bigger wheels stock too.
the actual "240" size is pure speculation anyway according to the article
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Never be produced.......
it already has been, the bikes are going through their endurance tests and such and will be ran around undercover in camo dressing and such
Then somebody at Duc needs a headcheck..........maybe HD bought them when they got MV......
True dat! It'll be wild seeing a Duc "poser bike", like Ferrari making a limo!
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posted March 25, 2009 05:10 AM
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True dat! It'll be wild seeing a Duc "poser bike", like Ferrari making a limo!
i twat all DUC'S were poser bikes ..cause they sure get their azz kick everywhere else ..
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posted March 25, 2009 05:21 AM
FYI. The FASTEST NAKED bike in the World (Bill Warner 246.6 MPH) uses a 240 tire on a 8.5 rim. Yeah, it doesn't go around corners too well but at that speed what would. It will be racing at the Texas Mile this weekend with bodywork, should be interesting. LSL
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posted March 25, 2009 08:27 AM
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i twat all DUC'S were poser bikes ..cause they sure get their azz kick everywhere else ..
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posted March 25, 2009 08:34 AM
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FYI. The FASTEST NAKED bike in the World (Bill Warner 246.6 MPH) uses a 240 tire on a 8.5 rim. Yeah, it doesn't go around corners too well but at that speed what would. It will be racing at the Texas Mile this weekend with bodywork, should be interesting. LSL
Must need the traction... ? to overcome the poor aero's?
Must be making massive power to punch through the air naked.
super cool!
got any pics?
Busa? Turbo? Nitrous?
If he is doing 246 naked, it must be good for about 260 with fairing?
That would be a new record?
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posted March 25, 2009 09:03 AM
That's what Batman should have rode!
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posted March 25, 2009 09:04 AM
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i twat all DUC'S were poser bikes ..cause they sure get their azz kick everywhere else ..
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Looks like a photo shopped up street fighter to me.......,
theres a class for every manufacturer ..they just change the displacement rules so ducs can win ...
and who care about a nekked or fairing class ..too many fukking classes .. 1 class MOTORCYCLE .. Kinda like the harley drags around here ...give everybody a trophy and keep them happy..
and i'll be at the mile .. with fairings maybe it can get close to the motorcycle record of what 251mph in a mile
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posted March 25, 2009 09:51 AM
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and who care about a nekked or fairing class ..too many fukking classes .. 1 class MOTORCYCLE .. Kinda like the harley drags around here ...give everybody a trophy and keep them happy..
and i'll be at the mile .. with fairings maybe it can get close to the motorcycle record of what 251mph in a mile
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