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posted January 22, 2009 02:32 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Jan 2009 22:33
One more small item installed. A racing gas cap from Vortex.
Stock:
Side by side:
Installed:
Lighter, with less parts to break. The new cap only uses 3 bolts...2 of the stock ones are simply for looks.
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posted January 22, 2009 02:53 PM
very nice shane, awesome thread too 
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posted January 23, 2009 03:14 PM
Shane,
how heavy is the stock cap? I've been looking at that same Vortex cap for a while now, wondered how the finish and fit are.
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posted January 23, 2009 07:41 PM
I believe the stock cap is about 13 oz. and the Vortex around 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that. The Vortex is definitely lighter, and the fit and finish are good.
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posted January 23, 2009 10:17 PM
quote:
I believe the stock cap is about 13 oz. and the Vortex around 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that. The Vortex is definitely lighter, and the fit and finish are good.
Shane
nice work Ali..er i mean Shane :P Im assuming you went for the vortex to make things simpler not just the weight savings eh?(no more key)
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posted January 24, 2009 07:29 AM
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quote:
I believe the stock cap is about 13 oz. and the Vortex around 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that. The Vortex is definitely lighter, and the fit and finish are good.
Shane
nice work Ali..er i mean Shane :P Im assuming you went for the vortex to make things simpler not just the weight savings eh?(no more key)
It's a win-win. Simplicity and light weight.
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posted January 24, 2009 03:59 PM
After some advice here, I decided not to use the Buell pegs I had purchased. I wanted some pegs that would sit lower and back, without going to rearsets. But unfortunately the Buell pegs would not allow me to get my feet in tight for top speed runs.
After looking around the garage, I found a likely candidate for a swap. The pegs on Racheal's 03 1000 GSXR looked like they would fit with a little work. So, I ordered up a used set.
Here is a comparison of the two pegs:
A little work with a flat file is required in order to fit them, but nothing major. As with anything, time will be relative to how picky you are. I'd say you could do them with a dremel in about 5 minutes. The ZX-14 pins will work along with the GSXR springs.
Stock vs. GSXR comparisons:
The GSXR parts are lighter, narrower, and put your feet a little lower since they don't have any rubber pads on them.
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posted January 24, 2009 05:07 PM
Those heel guards look sharp Shane...just looking at the front fender you added weight too. Id worry about one comming off!! That would end up strait into your radiator. Just some thought
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posted January 24, 2009 05:16 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 25 Jan 2009 01:17
That weighted fender is off of Racheal's turbo Busa. The prior owner had no problems with it, and he landed a few wheelies. But you never know what could happen. We don't use the weighted fender for the LSR racing.
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posted January 24, 2009 06:27 PM
Great thread shane! Just wants to say thanks for sharing all this info with everyone!!
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posted January 25, 2009 01:30 AM
Edited By: gilberjj on 25 Jan 2009 09:33
Dang..... I just finished reading all 15 pages. First off, thanks for all the writing shane! I'm a lot like you and I document my progress on my bike, but I don't take the time to throw it up on the board. I did it with my old Supra, but haven't had the motivation to do it with the bike.
After reading the threads, I had no idea that I still needed to buy new parts for my bike! Ah, it's never ending..... I figure I can get the following parts...
The gsxr 1000 pegs are trick for sure, and they could really help me get my feet on the pegs! I have botched a couple 1/4 mile passes cause I couldn't get my feet up. Maybe the extra mms will help me...
I really like the idea of getting used, but lighter wheels for my bike. I also really like the look of the zx6 wheel...... craigslist..... I don't think I'm daring enough to deal with the hassle of using gsxr wheels, but let us know how it works out.
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I need to find some sort of a double bubble too.....
2nd edit:
I need a 16t front sprocket too..... and a speedo healer.....
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posted January 26, 2009 03:26 PM
Edited By: masszx14 on 26 Jan 2009 23:27
While on the pegs topic, these are my Oberon pegs (race cut).
I had the bike for a week and had the stock Hardleys replaced.
The only issue now is that when leaned the lower fairings are first to touch.
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posted January 27, 2009 01:29 AM
mmmm your bike looks delicious! 
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posted January 28, 2009 12:00 AM
Those gsxr pegs are sweet!
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posted January 30, 2009 02:47 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 30 Jan 2009 22:55
One thing I decided to change this winter was the swingarm. The bolt-on extensions have served me well, but I was looking for something that would mate with my GSXR wheel and larger diameter axle.
There are a lot of options with swingarms. I looked at most of them. I wanted an arm that could take a lot of hp, handle some torsional loading (curves), extend the bike, and use the larger diamter GSXR axle. And I didn't want to pay a lot for it. Easy, huh? 
I wasn't overly happy with the looks of the chromoly arms, for the twisting-type loads. I will encounter those mostly at Maxton, where you take a small bend at 100+ mph, and then have to lean gently right at 175+ mph in the shutdown area. I'm sure that with some added bracing they will handle it....but I just wasn't sold on the arm design.
The Mcintosh aluminum arms look fabulous. The problem is that I really can't afford a $1500 swingarm setup right now. I was hoping to do everything for around $1000.
I decided to have the stock arm modified. My reasoning was that the stock arm is designed for high torsional loading as-is. The beams are triangular and the bike is designed to withstand high cornering forces even when fully loaded. It has to be built that way for liability reasons. I still wanted to improve the strength, however.
Spencer Cycle took care of the work for me. I called Doug and explained to him that I would need the larger axle blocks, which was no problem. I also ordered a billet hanger for a GSXR rear caliper, which should allow me to use the smaller 220mm GSXR brake. The requested mods were: 3-9" billet extensions, underbracing, nitrous bracket, larger axle blocks, and weld a couple of small holes and removed the inner bracket for the factory chain guard.
Here is the completed arm:
I knew the bracing and extensions would add some weight, the question was...how much? I had previously weighed the stock arm at 10.5 lbs. I was surprised to see that the new arm was relatively light!:
The only thing missing was the chain guide...but adding .5 for that still means that the arm is only 4.5 lbs. heavier than stock. Not bad at all!
As far as cost, it was very reasonable. Here is the breakdown of the costs:
$775 total in parts and labor.
I still need to either paint or powdercoat the arm. I am also going to have a custom axle made (the GSXR part is a little short). It looks like I can come in very close to my $1k figure and achieve my performance goals as well.
Overall I am very happy, and I am anxious to see the arm completed and on the bike.
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posted January 30, 2009 03:04 PM
relatively light?
dood that is still super light for the length it is.
Good work!
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posted January 30, 2009 04:13 PM
thats looks really nice! are you having it redone in black?
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 30, 2009 04:15 PM
Yes, it will be black. The stock arm appears painted, which holds up pretty well. I am not sure if powder coating is in the budget....we'll see.
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posted January 31, 2009 12:02 PM
A couple more pictures of the arm:
Here you can see that the stock chain guard tabs were retainted. This is convenient since I already have a lengthened guard from Tiger Racing:
Here you can see the 28mm axle blocks, and large adjuster rod:
Measured diameter of the adjuster rods:
My cheap caliper is starting to show it's worth (falling apart). Time to buy a decent tool.
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posted February 02, 2009 12:18 PM
Edited By: masszx14 on 2 Feb 2009 20:19
Shane,
I noticed you are not using the 07-08 gsx-r 1000 rear axle, but a previous year that uses a larger axle nut and a cotter pin. Check out the 07-08 nut- very slim and does not utilize a pin.
Maybe you can get away with that set up and won't have to machine a new axle
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posted February 02, 2009 12:34 PM
This is the 07 axle I'm planning on putting on my bike,
the nut is 12 mm wide
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posted February 02, 2009 01:37 PM
Do you happen to know the length of the late model axle?
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posted February 02, 2009 02:13 PM
The 07-08 is 13.5", the slimmer nut is the only difference.
Trimming your beefy axle blocks 3-4 mm on each side might do.
I also think the Busa axle is 28 mm , but might be slightly longer which would work for you.
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posted February 02, 2009 02:40 PM
I'm going to check into some things tonight. The Busa axle appears to be 32mm.
I am waiting on my caliper hanger to arrive before I order or machine anything.
McIntosh can do the custom axle for $125, and the powdercoating will be $85 locally. I am still on track to come in around my $1k total.
Shane
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posted February 02, 2009 03:04 PM
I have been a machinist for over 30 years. Considering he only made one that is an excellent price.
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