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posted April 04, 2006 11:48 AM
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posted April 04, 2006 12:00 PM
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posted April 04, 2006 12:05 PM
I'm taking my toys and going home!
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posted April 04, 2006 12:52 PM
Same here. Hard bags, shaft drive...ABS...I'm there!
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posted April 04, 2006 01:41 PM
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Same here. Hard bags, shaft drive...ABS...I'm there!
I heard that!.......... 
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posted April 04, 2006 05:18 PM
I'm gettin the 570 HP S/C'd KawaBusa...fuck ya all...
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posted April 04, 2006 05:42 PM
Shaft drive is for old men that don't know how to lube a chain.
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posted April 04, 2006 06:25 PM
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Shaft drive is for old men that don't know how to lube a chain.
Ouch!
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posted April 04, 2006 07:41 PM
*lol* I think that, after 20+ years of sportbikes, starting with a '78 GS1000, I'm ready for a shaft drive. At least I didn't bail and buy a FJR. But it's tempting, let me tell ya.
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posted April 04, 2006 08:29 PM
Does anyone know what the chain Kawasaki has on the '14? After being out of biking for a number of years, I was amazed at how good modern chains are. I don't think I had to adjust the chain on my ZRX even once last year. I did keep it clened and lubed though.
I have heard the stock chain on 'Busas is crap. Has Kawasaki put a high end chain on the '14?
Fish, were you aware of much chain adjusting going on at the launch? All the 1/4 mile lauches would be hard on the chain. The clutch seems pretty bullet proof on the '14, what about the factory chain?
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posted April 04, 2006 08:29 PM
My current Suzuki 1200/S Bandit has an automated chain lubing system CLS-200
When you tension your chain, you add some oil to the reservoir
How about that, jimmy-boy?
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posted April 05, 2006 05:03 AM
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Does anyone know what the chain Kawasaki has on the '14? After being out of biking for a number of years, I was amazed at how good modern chains are. I don't think I had to adjust the chain on my ZRX even once last year. I did keep it clened and lubed though.
I have heard the stock chain on 'Busas is crap. Has Kawasaki put a high end chain on the '14?
My ZZR's got a 530 chain, I can't imagine the 14's got anything less. The literature only says "X-Ring Chain", which doesn't really tell us much except that it's at least somewhat newer technology.
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posted April 05, 2006 02:12 PM
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Shaft drive is for old men that don't know how to lube a chain.
...I guess you're not yet older and/or wiser...
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posted April 05, 2006 02:22 PM
the parts page only states 116 links 530 .
I think its a DID.
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posted April 05, 2006 03:53 PM
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Does anyone know what the chain Kawasaki has on the '14? After being out of biking for a number of years, I was amazed at how good modern chains are. I don't think I had to adjust the chain on my ZRX even once last year. I did keep it clened and lubed though.
I have heard the stock chain on 'Busas is crap. Has Kawasaki put a high end chain on the '14?
Fish, were you aware of much chain adjusting going on at the launch? All the 1/4 mile lauches would be hard on the chain. The clutch seems pretty bullet proof on the '14, what about the factory chain?
Chains ain't that good...either you did no real milage...or you ride it like a pussy..:d
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posted April 05, 2006 03:56 PM
Edited By: gaby12 on 5 Apr 2006 16:56
fastbuglyaround....explain further please
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posted April 05, 2006 04:00 PM
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*lol* I think that, after 20+ years of sportbikes, starting with a '78 GS1000, I'm ready for a shaft drive. At least I didn't bail and buy a FJR. But it's tempting, let me tell ya.
The bike before my last Busa was an FJR...and though it's no ZX14 or a Busa, it's one hell of a bike that'll probably outrun a 14 to 50MPH or so...it won't outhandle one, but it's a rocket...with a zero to 60 of under 2.9 seconds. For all that weight, she moves quick and stays glued to the turns. That bike is a great all around machine and very comfortable to ride too...FJ's power wheelie at just 2K...thats how hard they launch!
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posted April 05, 2006 04:08 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 5 Apr 2006 17:09
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fastbuglyaround....explain further please
Chains needs to be adjusted often when you ride hard. I do 35k KM's a year...go through at least 7 back tires and a good 10 or more chain adjusts...through the season, then have to change the chain at the end. Whether its on my 10, the R1, or my (now sold) Busa, it makes little diff. I suspect the 14 won't be any different either. I also wax it every 500km's and clean a few times though the season.
Oh and by the way...its FastestBuglyAround, not FastBuglyAround...lets get it right man!
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posted April 05, 2006 05:25 PM
Chain care, Well I'll call myself a expert in the care of chains, well I know more than I should. 3 facts no one can argue. 1. The first chain that comes with a bike is always the best chain, stronger than any aftermarket and normally lasts between 20-30,000 miles. 2. Front sprocket must be changed every time (my rear sprocket has 82,000 miles and is in fine shape). 3. Always error on the side of loose when adjusting your chain. Outside of that choice of lube is fine, I like dupont silicone blue bottle from Lowes but PJ1, Chain Wax all work as well. My Method is fairly simple but a bit of work. I clean the chain every 2-3 months with Mineral Sprits then wipe clean with gas station like napkin. Objective: lube the O-Rings, X-Rings or W-Rings not the actual chain itself. Adding lube to a dirty chain tends to open the Rings up to the elements wearing the life of the chain. After lubing you must remove the overspray, with napkin. I know it's a pain in the ass and I'm not an engineer I'm just a Schmuck who knows what works not so much why. And fastestbusaaround (or FBA if thats OK ) I live in a hick town with more cops than cars when I ride (5 AM) so yeppers I do ride like a Puss (here), and I put my foot down at stop signs too. Trust me if you lived here you would as well, my neighbor has 3 tickets in 1 month same cop real SOB's here I tell ya....I have fun when I get out of town.
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posted April 05, 2006 05:35 PM
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Chain care, Well I'll call myself a expert in the care of chains, well I know more than I should. 3 facts no one can argue. 1. The first chain that comes with a bike is always the best chain, stronger than any aftermarket and normally lasts between 20-30,000 miles. 2. Front sprocket must be changed every time (my rear sprocket has 82,000 miles and is in fine shape). 3. Always error on the side of loose when adjusting your chain. Outside of that choice of lube is fine, I like dupont silicone blue bottle from Lowes but PJ1, Chain Wax all work as well. My Method is fairly simple but a bit of work. I clean the chain every 2-3 months with Mineral Sprits then wipe clean with gas station like napkin. Objective: lube the O-Rings, X-Rings or W-Rings not the actual chain itself. Adding lube to a dirty chain tends to open the Rings up to the elements wearing the life of the chain. After lubing you must remove the overspray, with napkin. I know it's a pain in the ass and I'm not an engineer I'm just a Schmuck who knows what works not so much why. And fastestbusaaround (or FBA if thats OK ) I live in a hick town with more cops than cars when I ride (5 AM) so yeppers I do ride like a Puss (here), and I put my foot down at stop signs too. Trust me if you lived here you would as well, my neighbor has 3 tickets in 1 month same cop real SOB's here I tell ya....I have fun when I get out of town.
Rob
How often do you have to adjust the chain?
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posted April 05, 2006 07:07 PM
Edited By: dubious on 5 Apr 2006 20:10
Stock chains may be good on street bikes, but the ones that come on dirt bikes i have owned go right into the bin.
Stock dirt bike chains are JUNK.
Even the O ring ones stretch out after about 10hrs, and in the process wreck the sprokets,
I go to the rivited 9800 psi tsubaki !
2 good adjustments and good chain care will get me at least 1 full season on these (200 hrs)
Has anyone here used sidewinder chains?
13,000 psi tensile prestretched chains! Expensive though!
520 conversions?
Supposed to be da shit!
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posted April 06, 2006 01:20 AM
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Trust me if you lived here you would as well, my neighbor has 3 tickets in 1 month same cop real SOB's here I tell ya....I have fun when I get out of town.
Rob
Yeah! Blame the cops when you break the law - it's their fault!
CLS-200 does the same as pro-oiler
lubes my chain automagically
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posted April 06, 2006 04:26 AM
FBA,
Normally I adjust at 500-1000 mile then maybe every 2000-2500 up to 10K. Then depending on the type of chain you have and how well you lubed, cleaned and drove the chain, every 1000 miles or so. The results of your love will show after 10K. After market chains last anywhere between 8-15,000 miles. The 8,000 mile chain I did not change the front sprocket, my bad. My current chain is the W-Ring RK and I have to admit it's doing better than I thought after 11,000 miles so it may be worth it to spend 40% more!!! Jury is still out on this one.
Rob
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posted April 06, 2006 04:34 AM
Yeah! Blame the cops when you break the law - it's their fault!
Hey I understand where your coming from, but think about my situation for a moment. I have 4 stop signs between my house and the main drag. IF you don't put your foot down your done. these guys switch places to watch. Hey I can do a complete stop for a millie sec and proceed without putting my foot down. Hell my MSF required us to come to a complete stop and proceed without putting my foot down. That my friend is the life I lead every day. Yep I put my foot down Almost every single time.
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