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posted December 20, 2005 04:29 AM        Edited By: fullzx12r on 20 Dec 2005 03:30
WEIGHT = 430 lbs = 196 kg DRY ... and pics

news from SAN JOSE California

sorry but in FRENCH only... :

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J'ai aussi monté tour à tour sur la ZX14 et sur la Hyabusa comme tu m'as demandé et la ZX14 a une position plus droite mais plus compacte. Le centre de gravité de la ZX14 semble beaucoup plus bas puisqu'elle m'a paru beaucoup plus légère.
Le représentant Kawasaki m'a donné comme chiffre officiel: 430 lbs = 196 kg


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posted December 20, 2005 08:11 AM        
< 200kg dry
> 200hp crank
> 200mph stock
a new world record on hyper-touring,
which is the new class of bikes
with the above specs

I just have to get one!!!

Please all believers out there:
ask God to give me a ZZR1400+ABD (centerstand) in the color
"The Passion" in early or mid-2006 [I'm currently between jobs :-( ]


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posted December 20, 2005 09:07 AM        
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i have a zx-12r ! this 14 will give me a lot of pleasure....sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted December 20, 2005 09:44 AM        
I'd really like to believe that - big thumbs up if they've pulled that one off.

If that IS true then there will be no doubt that I'll be getting one.

Like everyone else, I'm still waiting to see some official spec's.

Otherwise, someone needs to redefine "dry".

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posted December 20, 2005 09:48 AM        
official spec's.............. arghhhhhhhhhhhh we must wait 2006 ;(
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posted December 20, 2005 09:50 AM        
quote:
official spec's.............. arghhhhhhhhhhhh we must wait 2006 ;(


Must?

Can't!

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posted December 20, 2005 09:55 AM        
...I hope the rear seat cowls fit way smoother than that....
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posted December 20, 2005 11:51 AM        
If that's a manufacturer "dry weight" it makes it about 240 kg wet and full tank of gas. That would make it 7-9kg lighter than ZX12...
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posted December 20, 2005 12:39 PM        
worm~hole, the blue one pictured is of course a preproduction unit, and its cowl fit particularly badly. the other 3 fit much better.
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posted December 20, 2005 12:58 PM        
....good thing! (whew!)
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posted December 20, 2005 01:20 PM        
....I still think a digital speedo with large number readouts is the way to go with hyperbikes that can reach speeds of 190+ on the street....trying to cram all those numbers on an analog gage makes for small numbers, thus delayed data recognition/comprehension by the rider...especially at higher speeds with your helmet being buffeted and your vision and acquisition of those tiny numbers on a rouund dial being somewhat less than optimum...even at 65-75

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posted December 20, 2005 01:24 PM        Edited By: trenace on 20 Dec 2005 12:25
One report was that "dry weight" really means design weight: in other words the sum of what all the parts are specified to weigh, excluding fluids, and (I forget) either excluding battery or with unfilled battery.

This is why dry weights can be reported before a production bike has even been made. It is also why sometimes they are grossly wrong, as production parts sometimes are heavier than what the engineers specified them to be.

The only really accurate and meaningful weight figure from a manufacturer is the curb weight, which is indeed actual weight. This does not appear until after production bikes have actually been produced.

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posted December 20, 2005 02:00 PM        
"....I still think a digital speedo with large number readouts is the way to go with hyperbikes that can reach speeds of 190+ on the street....trying to cram all those numbers on an analog gage makes for small numbers, thus delayed data recognition/comprehension by the rider"

Maybe they could let the gauge go around 1,5 turns or more
Outside readings for the smaller speeds and the second turn of the speedometer would read inside
Whadda-ya-think?

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posted December 20, 2005 02:36 PM        Edited By: trenace on 20 Dec 2005 13:36
One doesn't need to read the digits, the angle of the needle is sufficient once one has gotten used to what angle means what speed. Except perhaps where having a cop definitely observing you and wanting to be dead-on, in which case the numbers aren't too small anyway.
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posted December 20, 2005 03:17 PM        
There arent any real #'s out yet, so I'm not sure where you're getting your figures from. At the Seattle show a salesman claimed it made 200rwhp.

I call BS on all of this unitl I see some real info.. not heresay.
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ROCHDA


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posted December 20, 2005 03:20 PM        
I just sign my new zx14 this afternoon, i will get it in april
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posted December 20, 2005 03:21 PM        
i read in the 2006 motorcycle book that the dry wight will 208 kg
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posted December 20, 2005 04:23 PM        
what's "the 2006 motorcycle book"?

no specs have been released on this bike other than what you'll find in the press release (see featured stories or news archive)

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posted December 20, 2005 04:38 PM        
did'nt the 12 have 200HP at the Crank.... I know in the silver book they say 200Hp easy at the crank...
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posted December 20, 2005 04:58 PM        
Actually no... while I don't recall the exact crankshaft hp figure claimed, I'm pretty sure it was in the 180's with Ram Air.

The Silver Book says the design goal was "175+ horsepower without Ram Air" (page 13.)

Page 38 says the actuality is "around 180 hp at the crankshaft, without Ram Air."

Page 40 does roughly speak of "pretty close to 200 ponies" as a goal with Ram Air but not in fact 200.


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posted December 20, 2005 05:42 PM        
hey, somebody quick get a water mark on those pics
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posted December 20, 2005 07:58 PM        
That thing couldn't weigh as little as 430 pounds sittin on the damn moon!!!!!! Blahahahaha..


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posted December 20, 2005 10:29 PM        
" i read in the 2006 motorcycle book that the dry wight will 208 kg "

where ? it is possible to make us a copy of this text ?

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posted December 20, 2005 10:36 PM        
Are you guys on CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF is wrong with you guys??????????? Are you blind???

This fucker aint made out of Pop Corn!!!!!!!!!! It can't be as big as it is and weigh as little as a ZX10!!!!!!!!!! If that was the case the ZX10 would be floating above the floor at the dealership. It would need moring ropes to keep it off the ceiling...

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posted December 21, 2005 03:24 PM        Edited By: trenace on 21 Dec 2005 14:32
That's not as little as a ZX-10R... it's "dry weight" is 375 lb.

So that would be, if so, 55 lb heavier in dry weight than the 10R, which is believable, though I place no bets as to whether it's the case. It would represent a big advance, 33 lb, if in parallel with actual weight change, over the 12R which had a "dry weight" figure of 463 lb (far under the curb weight.)

Where they would have taken the 33 lb out I don't know, unless the engine is a lot lighter. Wheels, there's some there for sure, but the new exhaust is likely heavier. The frame is several pounds lighter, but the engine gets a second balancer, so the net savings between those two can't be more than 2 or 3 lb I would think. So where the weight is being lost, if it is, besides wheels and minor knick-knacks here and there I dunno.

If they did whack 20 or 30 lb out of the engine then we are all going to have to take this bike more seriously. Somehow I'm reluctant to buy that hypothesis though.

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