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garth285


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posted November 07, 2011 11:58 AM        Edited By: garth285 on 7 Nov 2011 18:59
2011 ZX10r Vs 2011 GSXR1000 Vs 2007 ZX10r Vs 1998 R1

1998 R1 Beats them all lol...






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Ricksgsxr


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posted November 07, 2011 03:46 PM        
Tell us more about the R1. Stroker 1120 or 3 mil? nos runs nice!
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garth285


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posted November 07, 2011 03:47 PM        
stock pistons stock stroke!!!

about 350lbs soaking wet with a 180lbs rider... the gsxr and the 2011 10r riders are 230lbs and the 06-07 10r is about 170 ish i think.

R1 is WORKED!

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Ricksgsxr


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posted November 07, 2011 05:05 PM        
My 1070 is maybe 375lbs soaking wet..I weigh 190lbs. That R1 has a big bottle of spray...if stock pistons/stroke not going to pull away and nobody can catch up to it. You must have tall gearing? the gsxr jumped out but you reeled him in. That is what I would expect to happen with the R1

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posted November 07, 2011 05:09 PM        
Regardless I enjoyed the vid! . Forums have been so boring the past year or so. Can't wait to hear mods to the new 14 and some reviews of the new Duc 1199

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garth285


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posted November 07, 2011 05:42 PM        
no spray on the R1 and its been proven before... my 10r keeps up with it when its set up right, I was geared -1 up front on this but stock ride height...
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MAXUMIS


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posted December 27, 2011 09:47 PM        
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no spray on the R1 and its been proven before... my 10r keeps up with it when its set up right, I was geared -1 up front on this but stock ride height...

BS the 98 r1 went NOTHING like that in standed form,it's got spray or something like that full stop you no i like watching things like that but i hate the bull shit that comes with it!

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posted December 30, 2011 07:45 PM        
Maximus.....first and foremost....unless you're actually out there DOING THIS SHIT don't talk shit. We've already established quite a while ago this really isn't your thing.

Everyone and their mother knows the old R1s were down on MPH. They ran high 160s, just like the old ZX-9Rs. Been there done that.

Throw a proper ram air system and the R1s pick up quite a bit....how on earth do you think an older, heavier, smaller motor 899cc zx9 was able to trap the same top speeds as the true liter R1? Dont' believe me? We routinely go 179.9 to 181.1 mph on 04-06 R1s when they finally had a decent ram air. No less than 10 runs....and we even had a guy crack off a high of a 186 on GPS out at our spot....smaller guy....stock motor pump gas stock ride height....good mods, great tune, seat time.

Now....imagine the same bike model motorcycle lightened up....lowered significantly.....aero mods done (tested and re-tested for the best combo).....possibly good fuel....possibly motor work done (you can have a pretty fast stock displacement n/a bike....Sal and them went 205 at the Maxton Mile on a 2nd gen 10R while I was SPRAYING MY 12 going 203. And Sal outweighs me by an honest 50 lbs (sometimes 40ish sometimes 60 ish at our most extreme swings)

See....what you don't grasp.....and you can't grasp....is that when someone is going over their bike with a fine tooth comb....when they are pulling out all the stops....and keep pushing and pushing and pushing....doing it year in year out.....testing and tuning....is that by the time its all said and done the bike/rider combo is pretty impressive.

Case in point. Bone stock I took that beater $2000 budget 12 on the street, 1st pass 179.9....best I could get it to go was in the low 180s....thats IT all stock.

As soon as I started doing the usual mods speeds went up, the old 12 was impressing me with its decent respectable speeds, all things considered. Consistenly going 193s....and cracking off a 195.6 was pretty respectable as it sat.

But to explain to someone who doesn't do this that I will probably pick up 20 mph from when it was all bone stock....still on a stock motor probably makes your brain hemmorage...you just can't get it because you just don't DO IT.

I thought the same thing about the R1....for a sec......called up Sal....he gave me a rough idea that basically this is no ordinary R1....I had a LOT of respect for that bike/rider combo. And in the real world....while it is not the king of the 9/10ths its showing it can hold its own and do ok.

Get it? Nah, you probably still don't.

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posted February 21, 2012 10:08 AM        
No nitrous on that R1... but it has benefited from well over a decade of testing/tuning/modding. Oh yeah, the owner/rider is also one of the best LSR jockeys you'll come across. Right up there with all the big names in LSR... yet he prefers to stay low key.

Believe it... that R1 is no joke and neither is the guy on it.
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posted April 17, 2012 08:36 PM        
agreed..my buddy have a 2004 R1 and he only has an KN air filter and slip ons but with the introduction or RAM air that jokers power to weight ratio would kill my 2009 R1 I had..
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posted May 03, 2012 01:26 PM        
As much ass as this particular 2011 ZX10 has kicked, and many vids over 200 mph- it just got it's ass drugg....

By a stock displacement R1! lol

I think I would put riders of simular weight on both bikes to make up for the "embarassment". Just my opinion..

Cuz it outran your camera too...
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posted July 26, 2012 02:15 AM        
shipeteey,

You can say what you want... that carb-98 model R1 is not stock...
Here are the specs:
Power: 150.00 HP (109.5 kW)) @ 10000 RPM
Torque: 108.00 Nm (11.0 kgf-m or 79.7 ft.lbs) @ 8500 RPM
Top speed: 280.0 km/h (174.0 mph)
Dry Weight: 177.0 kg (390.2 pounds)

Garth's bike is around 200 rwhp.... in the video, the 1K was on spray.......
Even with an exhaust it will gain only 10 hp, ran air kit a few more...

I say BS on the stock bike




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JZX


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posted August 06, 2012 11:13 PM        
That's why the ZX10R in this vid was sold I am sure. I would have sold it also if it got beat by a bike with carberator s and 40less hp.

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MAXUMIS


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posted November 02, 2012 11:23 PM        Edited By: MAXUMIS on 3 Nov 2012 06:41
quote:
Maximus.....first and foremost....unless you're actually out there DOING THIS SHIT.A.

Dude i do but im not out to make my self a hero!! bUT i do this shit AND KNOW YOU AND YOUR JUNKY

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Kneeburner


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posted November 08, 2012 05:30 PM        Edited By: Kneeburner on 9 Nov 2012 00:35
ya i'm jumping on the not stock band wagon also. Ram air and lowering the bike will help but not that much. Perhaps by stock you mean the engine was balanced and blueprinted that would keep it stock but increase the performance. The bike looks lowered and stretched a bit to me but hey the video is cool....Did the ZX10 have an ECU reflash done that would put it at 190hp with stock exhaust.....
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Meangreen14


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posted December 11, 2012 09:53 PM        
Wow that R1 was moving, might be stock displacement but by no means stock engine no way in hell it would walk on your 10r like that expetially in the top end. I have rode a 98 R1 a couple years ago and that thing was strong but did not have the top end pull of my old 05 zx10r, yes the rider may be a pro but that R1 is way to strong to be completely stock...

Great vid by the way!
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