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mrsantafe


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posted December 04, 2008 12:47 PM        
zx10 with zx12 or zx14 motor inside???

Has anyone done it? I'd love to sneak my carpenter built 1290 into a zx10 frame.
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flite leader


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posted December 05, 2008 01:22 PM        
the best sleeper in history weas the old 1100 Zook

in a 750 frame..............................simply killer

they ran into problems

in a engine HP is converted to torque.........................the true motive force

the conundrum is you Can multiply torque.......you can multiply HP

so if you srtart with 100ft lbs torque......& 100 HP

by time you route thru the primary & the tranny

you still have 100HP but you may actyally have 200 300 ft lbs of torque

the rub is the frame has to handle the torque

many times people percieve parts are broken by HP

theyare actually broken by torque

if you had a spare frame ......stick an axle in the rear swing arm

attach a 10 foot pole..........................take a 200 pound guy & have him lean on it
or take weights from your gym set & attach

& you will see MASSIVE frame flex & Delection

the old ZOOK frame would actually try to shorten themselves length wise

on the left chain side..............the torque would actually try to make the

2 sprockets meet

& no HP at all
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Phantom13


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posted January 04, 2009 12:54 PM        
quote:
in a engine HP is converted to torque.........................the true motive force




Horsepower is just a measure of torque over time by way of RPM, it doesn't "convert" into anything.....









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2000redrocket


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posted February 14, 2009 08:25 PM        
yeah. dyno mesures torque. then does the math for horse power.
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TedG


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posted February 14, 2009 10:36 PM        
The ZX10 makes more horsepower than the 12 and the gearing is much better on the 10. A 14 in a 10 frame might not make such a great combo just because the power delivery and the short frame could make it just plain unstable. Maybe, maybe not.
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brickman


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posted February 19, 2009 01:59 PM        
i'd like to have a 10 that put out the hp and tq that a Carpenter 1290 well make. i wonder what it would take to get a 10 motor to put up them kind of numbers.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.lol
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fish_antlers


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posted February 21, 2009 07:41 PM        
I dont think it will fit... (physically)
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psycho1122


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posted February 22, 2009 07:27 AM        
Charles, PM down and I do no have a #.

E-mail me, THANKS!!
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mrsantafe


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posted February 28, 2009 08:32 AM        
psycho1122

my email acetully@q.com talk to ya soon!!
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2006 ZX14 gone
2006 ZX10r (Wifes street bike)
2004 zx10r (her race bike)
2002 ZX12 (still kicking a--)
2007 gsxr 1k (race bike)



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psycho1122


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posted March 28, 2009 06:20 AM        
Tully!!!

You got mail......
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drjohnzx10


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posted March 29, 2009 08:13 PM        
the 12 motor is probably nearly twice the weight of the 10 and you would have way to many clearance problems the 10 motor barely fits in the 10
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